All Scripture must be interpreted according to its "literal" sense, whether it's historical narrative, didactic, poetic, or prophetic symbolism. To re-state the obvious, we will never agree. It's the "futurist" view that is made up by man; preterism is the orthodox view.
Preterists Cannot Prove Their Assertions !
Discussion in 'Other Christian Denominations' started by robycop3, Feb 10, 2019.
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The true context of Scripture shows there was / will be no literal mark. I used to believe the mark of the beast would be a microchip, but I have dismissed that as science-fiction. Good point regarding the mark of Cain, but I'm not about the nature of his mark. Maybe a topic for discussion sometime.
Gary DeMar is a brilliant theologian, as are Ken Gentry and the late R.C. Sproul. I am quite sure the Scriptures are your ultimate source, and I assure you they are mine. We just disagree on what they say. -
Looking forward to the "Nero" thread. FYI - I'm only on the Baptist Board during the week, so I may not reply right away after it's posted. -
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Matthew 24:29; Revelation 6:12. -
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The passage from Matt. 24:29-31 is symbolic language pointing to the destruction of Jerusalem in AD 66-70. Heavenly bodies often symbolize earthly rulers and governments.
Jew / Gentile distinction - Paul often used the phrase "to the Jew first, and also to the Greek". In the history of redemption, salvation was brought to Israel first, as you well know. However, the Jews rejected Christ when they cried out "crucify Him". The Gentiles were grafted in. Thus, Galatians 6:16 actually goes to prove my point. In vs. 15, we read that whether one is circumcised or not makes no difference. The only thing that counts is to be a new creation. Thus, all who are new creations in Christ have become the true Israel of God. There is only one "people of God". Have you ever considered that, by definition, there were no Jews before Jacob was changed to Israel? Yet, even the Jews look back to Father Abraham, who was actually a Gentile. What is special about Abraham? He is known for his faith. We can see that we are one people through our faith.
That brings us to Rev. 21:9-14. Again, this passage goes more to prove my point. The gates of the Heavenly Jerusalem are the 12 tribes of Israel, and the foundation stones are the 12 apostles. The "true Israel" are those in Christ. The parable of the Landowner (Matt. 33-46) illustrates that the Kingdom of God was taken away from the nation of Israel and given to spiritual Israel. -
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Please take my advice & believe Scripture LITERALLY AS POSSIBLE. I fully realize there's SOME symbolism, similes, & metaphors in Scripture, but they always represent something LITERAL.
God meant His word to be an ABSOLUTE. We can't bend it to fit OUR agendas & man-made doctrines. It means what it says & says what it means. And the central events of Scripture are Jesus' coming as a man, and His future return, in all His power & glory. Also, it revolves around the Israelis, God's "peculiar" people.
You've been taken in by the quackery of Preston, Gentry, etc. Their stuff is phony as a Ford Corvette.
Jesus meant for us to know many of the details of His return & the events surrounding it. He told it to His disciples in straightforward language for them to record for all future generations.
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