Prominent Republican: Women Need To Be Paid Less So They Can Find Husbands

[Crabtownboy]

Wow, what a crazy logic. So all women should be gold diggers? Every woman alive should be offended by this comment by Schlafly.

Do men have such poor self-images, or egos that they would be upset if their spouse made a higher salary or not marry a women they loved just because she made more money?

Now three days later, a prominent member of the Republican movement further undermined the party’s campaign to appeal to women voters by suggesting that the current pay gap isn’t wide enough. In an op-ed published by the Christian Post, Phyllis Schlafly — the founder of the Eagle Forum — maintained that increasing the pay gap will help women find suitable husbands:

Another fact is the influence of hypergamy, which means that women typically choose a mate (husband or boyfriend) who earns more than she does. Men don’t have the same preference for a higher-earning mate.

http://thinkprogress.org/economy/20...less-than-men-so-they-can-find-good-husbands/

 

[InTheLight]

Phyllis Schlafly is a prominent Republican? Yeah, in the 1960's.

Anyway, the thread title and your comments are dishonest. Schlafly never says women should be paid less, she said that it would be good for women's economic health of their spouses got paid more. There is no element of gold digging implied. Please, please read your own linked articles before commenting on them.

 

[Aaron]

St. Paul,

I will therefore that the younger women marry, bear children, guide the house, give none occasion to the adversary to speak reproachfully, for some are already turned aside after Satan.
​

 

[Crabtownboy]

Phyllis Schlafly is a prominent Republican? Yeah, in the 1960's.

Anyway, the thread title and your comments are dishonest. Schlafly never says women should be paid less, she said that it would be good for women's economic health of their spouses got paid more. There is no element of gold digging implied. Please, please read your own linked articles before commenting on them.

Actually the title is accurate to my reply that her logic is crazy and illogical ... as well as insulting to both men and women. She said they should be paid less if they want to find husbands.

Would you not marry a woman simply because she had a higher salary than you?

Would you be upset if your wife had a higher salary?
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I certainly would not be upset as that salary would help the family.

 

[InTheLight]

Actually the title is accurate to my reply that her logic is crazy and illogical ... as well as insulting to both men and women. She said they should be paid less if they want to find husbands.

Title is inaccurate. Schlafly is not a prominent Republican. She never said women should be paid less. She said " The best way to improve economic prospects for women is to improve job prospects for the men in their lives, even if that means increasing the so-called pay gap." In other words, she wants the man to make more money.

Would you not marry a woman simply because she had a higher salary than you?

Non sequitur. Article was not about men marrying women with higher salaries, but to answer your question, I would have no problem with it, in fact when I got married my wife had a higher salary than me.

Would you be upset if your wife had a higher salary?

No. My wife has a higher salary than me, but I am more highly compensated. I'm good with it.

 

[Inspector Javert]

You always know a liberal is being deceptive when they don't simply link to the column itself and instead link only to liberal commentary ABOUT the article:

Anyone who wishes to read what Schlafly ACTUALLY said, can find it here:
http://www.christianpost.com/news/facts-and-fallacies-about-paycheck-fairness-117959/

And, you will swiftly come to realize that Both the link in the O.P. and the conclusions of the O.P. are deceitful.

Niether CTB nor the link in the O.P accurately portray Schlafly's argument.

 

[Inspector Javert]

She said they should be paid less if they want to find husbands.

That is a lie.

 

[JonC]

Makes since to me...if women are making enough to keep them at the workplace instead of out there looking for husbands who make more money then the whole human race is doomed...

 

[annsni]

She's a nut. Here's exact quotes:

Suppose the pay gap between men and women were magically eliminated. If that happened, simple arithmetic suggests that half of women would be unable to find what they regard as a suitable mate.

Obviously, I'm not saying women won't date or marry a lower-earning men, only that they probably prefer not to. If a higher-earning man is not available, many women are more likely not to marry at all.

So if men and women earn the same amount of money, half of women won't be able to find a man so they won't marry? That's ridiculous.

The pay gap between men and women is not all bad because it helps to promote and sustain marriages.

Yep, I feel SO much better knowing that my husband makes more than me. Our marriage is dreamy because of it! :BangHead:

 

[Scarlett O.]

I'm speechless. (almost )

Poor Phyllis.

 

[Inspector Javert]

She's a nut. Here's exact quotes:

They are exact quotes....
but you still read it wrong Ann

So if men and women earn the same amount of money, half of women won't be able to find a man so they won't marry?

NO, she said that they tend to PREFER things to be a certain way, and if that particular preference is not as available (to wit a man who makes more) than they will most likely be less likely to find what THEY consider to be their preferred mate.

That's ridiculous.

It's a very logical inferrence:
I'm not sure you know who Phyllis Schafly is, but she is one of the more intelligent and academically gifted women of that last few decades.

Yep, I feel SO much better knowing that my husband makes more than me.
Our marriage is dreamy because of it!

It has nothing to do with already existing marriages:
Economic status is in one way or another directly related to people's likelihood to marry and/or remain married.

Also, marriage is (in and of itself) one of the best statistical guarantors of not living in poverty especially not having children outside of wedlock...

She knows these facts and is only implying that people are trading one thing:
Marriage for career success:
That is undeniably true if you look at demographics, marriage trends, and poverty trends.
The two are inherently interrelated.

She is not saying that a pay gap is inherently healthy to a preexisting marriage.

 

[InTheLight]

I'm not sure you know who Phyllis Schafly is, but she is one of the more intelligent and gifted women of that last few decades.

Well, that is hilarious. Thanks for the laugh!

 

[Inspector Javert]

Well, that is hilarious. Thanks for the laugh!

She is intelligent, and well educted. In her area (politics and activism) she is one of the more effective and intelligent women academically than we have seen in decades. She's quite knowledgeable.
Presumably, you don't care much for her or her views perhaps, but she is ANYTHING but stupid.

 

[go2church]

Eagle Forum, bringing the 50's back one column at a time.

She's well educated, no doubt, but has a very, shall we say, unique point of view.

 

[Inspector Javert]

Trivial Fun Fact:

Phyllis Schlafly graduated at the very top of her class in Political Science.

Several Harvard Law school professors offered to grant her an exception to attend Harvard Law (which did not allow women at the time, she refused).
Several schools offered her scholarships to attend to include Columbia and Welesly

No one here should be scoffing at her achievements in that regard....
Whether someone likes all her views or not....
She was academically gifted and very intelligent.

 

[Gina B]

Wait...when did things change?

I thought it was supposed to be that guys made more money and supported their wives and families unless there was a reasonable circumstance that prevented it.

Isn't that the norm, the expectation, and even more so among Baptists, that men go out and work and provide, and women find husbands willing, able, and capable of doing such, and that they do marry and preferably spend more time at home than in the work force? If that's the case, why wouldn't a woman want a man who can make more than her, and why wouldn't a man feel less needed by a woman who didn't need him? Marriage is mutually beneficial for more than just companionship. When it isn't, people simply don't bother with marriage. (and we're seeing lots of evidence of that lately!)

 

[Crabtownboy]

Wait...when did things change?

I thought it was supposed to be that guys made more money and supported their wives and families unless there was a reasonable circumstance that prevented it.



Isn't that the norm, the expectation, and even more so among Baptists, that men go out and work and provide, and women find husbands willing, able, and capable of doing such, and that they do marry and preferably spend more time at home than in the work force? If that's the case, why wouldn't a woman want a man who can make more than her, and why wouldn't a man feel less needed by a woman who didn't need him? Marriage is mutually beneficial for more than just companionship. When it isn't, people simply don't bother with marriage. (and we're seeing lots of evidence of that lately!)

What about single women?

There are many single women. Some have never been married. We have many widowed young women because of our misadventures in Iraq and Afghanistan.

What about families that need the salary of both the husband and wife to survive?

 

[annsni]

Or what of a woman who will be working in a well paying profession and her husband is still in school? My daughter is going to be an audiologist and will not be marrying for probably another 4 years. She will get out of school with a starting salary of $75,000 and immediate job prospects (the employment rate within 6 months of graduating is 100% in this field). She more than likely will be making more money than her potential spouse will be making at that time. Should she overlook someone because they don't make as much as her? Heck, when my husband and I were engaged, he made less money than me working part time at a grocery store!! But I married the brute anyway.

I think it has nothing to do with the quantity of money of one over the other. I think it DOES have to do with having a heart of a provider and if that means the husband just makes less than his wife, that's not a problem as long as he is willing to work to support his family. Unfortunately Ms. Shalfly seems to think that a man MUST make more than his wife for a marriage to work. That's just not realistic or correct.

 

[thisnumbersdisconnected]

Well, that is hilarious. Thanks for the laugh!

I'd suggest you check out Mrs. Schafly's credentials before you qo off LOL'ing about her.

Otherwise, as to the OP and the stupidity of its willful misinterpretation of facts and misleading spin of truth, I repeat ...

[personal attack deleted]

 

[Scarlett O.]

It's clear to me what Phylllis is saying.

She is saying that the primary characteristic that a woman looks for in a husband is his money. And, if SHE has money, then she won't need a man - or won't be able to find one because she looking for one who makes more than her.

I wish I could talk to her in person. She's so misguided here in her blanket statements and broadbrushing of women as money-seekers.