Just saying here that what the pope considers to "save him" may/may not be what the Bible and God says saves!
Protestant exclusion from RC communion
Discussion in 'Other Christian Denominations' started by Michael Wrenn, Jun 17, 2012.
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At the statue of Ste. Anne, (the grandmother of God), an idol set upon a high number of steps, Catholics crawl on their hands and knees to go and make an offering to this idol. Steeped in superstitions the RCC has a tremendous hold on these people. The city of Montreal is located on an island, and stands alone, somewhat immune to most of the superstition influences of the rest of the province of Quebec.
http://www.virtualtourist.com/trave...Quebec-Ste_Anne_de_Beaupre_Basilica-BR-1.html
http://www.moytura.com/stanne.htm
To worship the grandmother of God is very popular, and goes directly against the Ten Commandments.
Here is what it says here:
1 Kings 6:23 And within the oracle he made two cherubims of olive tree, each ten cubits high.
--As I already described, this is the construction of the Temple. It is the construction of the holy of holies, that part of the Temple that the high priest could enter into one time out of the year on the Day of Atonement, and only then it was to make a sacrifice for the atonement for the people. No one bowed down to any idol. The churbim (angels), especially the space between the two, symbolized God's presence. It wasn't. It was purely symbolic.
The RCC actually bows down to the stations of the cross, prays to them, and that is worship and idolatry. You have not done serious study of the Ten Commandments have you? -
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Genesis 19:1-5 (New International Version)
1 The two angels arrived at Sodom in the evening, and Lot was sitting in the gateway of the city. When he saw them, he got up to meet them and bowed down with his face to the ground. 2 "My lords," he said, "please turn aside to your servant's house. You can wash your feet and spend the night and then go on your way early in the morning."
"No," they answered, "we will spend the night in the square."
Genesis 23:6-8 (New International Version)
6 "Sir, listen to us. You are a mighty prince among us. Bury your dead in the choicest of our tombs. None of us will refuse you his tomb for burying your dead."
7 Then Abraham rose and bowed down before the people of the land, the Hittites. 8 He said to them, "If you are willing to let me bury my dead, then listen to me and intercede with Ephron son of Zohar on my behalf
Genesis 23:12-13 (New International Version)
12 Again Abraham bowed down before the people of the land 13 and he said to Ephron in their hearing, "Listen to me, if you will. I will pay the price of the field. Accept it from me so I can bury my dead there."
Genesis 27:27-30 (New International Version)
27 So he went to him and kissed him. When Isaac caught the smell of his clothes, he blessed him and said,
"Ah, the smell of my son
is like the smell of a field
that the LORD has blessed.
28 May God give you of heaven's dew
and of earth's richness—
an abundance of grain and new wine.
29 May nations serve you
and peoples bow down to you.
Be lord over your brothers,
and may the sons of your mother bow down to you.
May those who curse you be cursed
and those who bless you be blessed."
30 After Isaac finished blessing him and Jacob had scarcely left his father's presence, his brother Esau came in from hunting.
Genesis 33:1-4 (New International Version)
1 Jacob looked up and there was Esau, coming with his four hundred men; so he divided the children among Leah, Rachel and the two maidservants. 2 He put the maidservants and their children in front, Leah and her children next, and Rachel and Joseph in the rear. 3 He himself went on ahead and bowed down to the ground seven times as he approached his brother.
4 But Esau ran to meet Jacob and embraced him; he threw his arms around his neck and kissed him. And they wept.
1 Kings 1:31
Then Bathsheba bowed low with her face to the ground and, kneeling before the king, said, "May my lord King David live forever!"
Exodus 11:8
All these officials of yours will come to me, bowing down before me and saying, ‘Go, you and all the people who follow you!’ After that I will leave.” Then Moses, hot with anger, left Pharaoh.
Oh well...:cool:
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Uzziah looked into the ark and was killed immediately.
Who bowed down before the Ark? Who? Who?
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Now if wish to amend that position...
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And are you saying now that Jesus doesn't want you to be baptized? Or jesus doesn't want you to study scripture. Or that Jesus doesn't want you to discipline your life into one of prayer? Are you saying that sanctification is not a part of Salvation?
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In the context of justification the term "grace" is precisely contextually defined to exclude all works but those produced in the life and Person of Jesus Christ - Rom. 3:24-26.
1. "FREELY by grace" - The term translated "freely" is elsewhere translated "without a cause" - Rom. 3:24
2. The contextual CAUSE is instead restricted to what God provided in the Person and work of jesus Christ which only serves as the OBJECT of faith rather than any PRODUCT of faithfulness - Rom. 3:25-26.
Hence, to claim that Rome believes "by grace alone" is true just as you don't add the words "as Biblically defined" to it.
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But to be born from above you need to be baptized you must be born of both water (baptism) and the Spirit. -
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