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Quotes from Ellen White - You Decide

Discussion in 'Other Christian Denominations' started by thatbrian, Feb 8, 2018.

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  1. JonShaff

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    If Ellen White was proven to be totally false, and you were convinced of it, would you still Be a SDA?
     
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    agreed. But the non-SDAs here are probably first questioning every detail - every account of every meeting and every word spoken in that chapter as quoted - because it is not a common event to have someone claim to have a vision about some event in the past or future -- and then go through the exercise of "how do I know that is real -- what is the test"
     
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    If you look at the 28 Fundamental Beliefs that we keep referencing - none of them come from an Ellen White quote
     
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    Whatever God had to say to us regarding those historical events would be in the Bible itself, PERIOD...
     
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    We all would deny that EW was a modern day prophetess, as her theology and viewpoints disagree with inspired scripture!
     
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    Understood, so what's your answer?
     
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    The Sda denies the suffiency of the Bible, as God added inspired teaching thru Ellen White
    See themselves as being the true remnant church
    Deny eternal hell, eternal life
    Hold to must keep the Sabbath or else take Mark of Beast
    Deny etrnal security, as one can believe in jesus, but fail test after life and lose it all
    that seems to be non Bilbical to me!
     
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    And people want me to treat them like they are just another "denomination". Ya. Right.
     
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    he can say that, but the Sda rest upon the teachings of Ellen White....
     
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    Yea, i'm trying to process this.
     
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    It would be impossible for me to be Seventh-day Adventist if she were indeed proved to be a false prophet, but I have never, in all my experience, seen such evidence [and not for lack of anyone trying either, on their part or my own]. I have watched many anti-EGW, Seventh-day Adventist materials, read many ex-SDA articles, websites, and frankly they all fall far short of reality, truth, but I am open to evidences, discussion where I have not encountered a person before.

    I was born and raised into Roman Catholicism, and when the Holy Spirit was working upon me, I was inclinded to Baptist [I had a Russian Baptist friend, a good brother really, and they have a pretty good creation message, which is what God first used to get me to think] until he [Russian friend] handed me 85 things sabbatarians [supposedly] cannot answer, after a prayer unto God to know the truth of the matter, and it was through study of those questions, that I came to know that they all have biblically based answers. Back then I was still using my old Roman Catholic Bible, NAB, St. Josephs Ed. I still have some of my old notes from those days, wow, was I ever rough. Hahahaaa... That very list clinched it for me.
     
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    That's obvious to us, but they have obviously fooled many into thinking that they are benign when they are more deadly than malignant melanoma.
     
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    When Moses was alive in the days of the peoples Israel, was Daniel or Ezekiel or John even yet written?
     
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    I think that the key here is the context in which one is expected to treat them as "another denomination". Is it in the context of a local church? A Baptist church should view itself as being correct in doctrine and those who oppose its doctrine as being false. Is it in the context of Christianity in general? If so, then this also depends on whether or not one views their doctrine to be too far removed to qualify.

    But.....Is it in the context of an online forum where they are granted the status as "another denomination" for the purpose of discussion? This context is different. One does not have to accept the belief of the other, but in terms of such a forum both can equally express their positions with equal status (the owner of the forum determining what groups will be excluded from discussion).
     
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    The Bible [KJB] says, "To the law and to the testimony ...", two things, not one. The "testimony" is the "spirit of prophecy". The "Law" and the "prophets" [all whom God sends].
     
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    Why would that matter? As God as revealed ALL that ever intended to directly to us JUST in His scriptures. period!
     
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    I have one question for the SDA folks, if I may.
     
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    Perhaps we can start a discussion on Islam. I have great material on them, from their own sources.
     
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    The scriptures rest upon Jesus Himself, and the Holy Spirit is the Spirit of prophecy, not Ellen White!
     
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    Go for it.
     
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