Well then, we can all make much leeway to ourselves with such qualifiers.
Foreknowledge is not Foreordination.
Please bear in mind that the future is not linear. God did not simply foreknow "the" future; he foreknew all possible futures. Did he ordain them all while foreknowing them all? Of course not.
Reformed Salvation
Discussion in 'Baptist Theology & Bible Study' started by SavedByGrace, Nov 23, 2021.
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To Adam in Eden?
To Noah after the flood?
To Abraham?
To Moses and Israel under the law?
The commandments of Jesus to Jews under the law as establishing that law of Moses?
To people in the church age of grace?
To the tribulation saints?
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We could, for example, quote a verse commanding us to worship in Jerusalem, but we don't do that because that commandment was given in another dispensation/age.
Your verses that a works-repentance along with faith is necessary for salvation comes from which of the previously listed ages? I.e. what is the dispensational context of your verses? -
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the first ALL must mean the entire human race, so the second ALL has to be the same! Note that it says MIGHT HAVE MERCY, which is subjunctive in the Greek, meaning CONDITIONAL, which is REPENTING and FAITH, not automatic. -
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I showed you the full context in an earlier post, showing you that the all is referring to all Israel. Yet, in Romans 2 and Romans 9, Paul clarifies that not all Israel is Israel, meaning the dna ancestors are not Israel, but the Israel of God is the children of the Promise. Paul is, therefore declaring that the all, to which you point, is all the chosen and elect children of the Promise.
sbg, you have to read all of Paul's argument instead of looking at half a sentence and then making an unsubstantiated assertion from that half sentence. Honestly, you have to read the entire letter and study what Paul is saying in entirety. You are mishandling the scripture and it is resulting in bad theology on your part. -
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PLEASE don't use LIES to try to show that I believe in this HERESY! -
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