On the Spot (CNSNews.com) - Several Senate Democrats say they would not support Sen. Barack Obama (D-Ill.) in any attempt to repeal the federal Defense of Marriage Act (DOMA).
So according to obama, marriage means nothing. His actions will belittle every real marriage in this country. How can any christian vote for and support, approve of the evil of
this anti god person.
How and why did politics and politicians get involved in such matters anyway? Why should it be a President's place to rule in this way on such a sacred institution as marriage? It is very much like activism from the judiciary bench. :BangHead:
It is because we use the same word for two related issues:
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The religious aspect of a couple creating a marital relationship commitment, and a family
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The civil contract that is recognized by the state for purposes of property, inheritance, hospital visitation, making decisions for one another, and tax benefits.
The two are related, but not interdependent. The polygamous FLDS church demonstrates this by their plural marriages being recognized by their church, but not the state.
Funny, this hardly seems like something a Muslim would support, now does it, RevMitchell. Man, those fundamentalist Muslims and their liberal acceptance of same-sex relations......:laugh:
Lest ye deny that you are accusing Mr. Obama of having Muslim sentiments, here is a quote you posted in another thread:
How am I making your point? You accuse Mr. Obama of having Muslim sentiments. I hardly see how sympathetic a reception he would receive from the Muslim community when he says this:
So, since we know from the above that Mr. Obama and Muslims part ways on the matter of same-sex relations, perhaps you can enlighten us as to what specific Muslim values he does ascribe to?
Fundamentalist values of Muslims re the treatment of women?
Fundamentalist values of Muslims re implementation of theocracy?
Fundamentalist values of Muslims re the abortion issue?
I erroneously attributed the following quote to RevMitchell, when in fact it comes from a post by Lady Eagle.
My apologies.
Nevertheless, I am pretty sure that RevMitchell has attempted to argue, directly or by implication, that Mr. Obama's values have been informed Muslim beliefs.
Certainly his beliefs on same-sex issues are not the same
Certainly his beliefs on the abortion issue are not the same.
As CK4 will back up I have repeatedly stated that I do not know if Obama is now or ever has been a moslem. I have been very clear on that. I do have concerns however.
Here is how you both accused me falsely and made my point (you are on a roll):
You seem to assert here that I have said he is a Moslem. This would be false. I have never said he was a Moslem.
Actually now that I think about it you did not make my point you falsely accused me twice. I have never accused Barak as having Moslem sentiments. i have made it clear that I do not know that he is a Moslem nor do I know that he ever was a Moslem. I believe CK4 will verify this. Now, I would appreciate you putting a stop to your false accusations.
Let the reader judge whether the following extract from posts of yours suggest by implication that Mr. Obama has Moslem sentiments:
You have been very careful to offset these innuendos with statements like this:
You really are playing a bit of a game - suggesting by implication a dark and ominous connection to Islam but then correctly defending yourself that you have never explicitly made the accusation.