"The frustration of conservatives is understandable. Faced with the prospects of Rudy Giuliani, John McCain, or Mitt Romney as the next Republican presidential candidate, many are pinning their hopes on former Senator Fred Thompson of Tennessee. Could this actor-politician be the new Ronald Reagan?
Mainstream media types assure us that he is. His record suggests otherwise.
This is the second time conservatives have pinned their hopes on Thompson. When he was first elected in the Republican sweep of 1994, he was seen then as the “new Reagan”—a charismatic movie star turned politician. Senate Majority Leader Bob Dole quickly picked Thompson to give the five-minute GOP rebuttal to President Clinton’s economic address, and no less than The New York Times swooned with its headline the next morning, “A Star Is Born.”
He turned out to be a shooting star—a dazzling flash in the sky, soon gone, not there dependably, night after night, like the Big Dipper. Or, as The Tennessean later put it, “A year ago [Thompson] looked like a rising star. Today he looks more like a fading comet.”
Especially to conservatives who have taken the time to examine his record."
- rest at www.conservativesbetrayed.com/gw3/articles-latestnews/articles.php?CMSArticleID=1827&CMSCategoryID=19
Richard A. Viguerie: "Conservatives, Beware of Fred Thompson"
Discussion in 'Political Debate & Discussion' started by KenH, Jul 11, 2007.
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Oh puhlease. The Tennesseean is disppointed he isn't pro-choice, anti 2nd amendment, pro-union, pro-gay. He's got better marks on life, guns, etc. than most all of the psuedo conservatives running. Just more people scared of a conservative replacing the failed policies of Bush 41, Clinton, and W.
The article displays a lot of ignorance (or willful misrepresentation) of Baker and Alexander (one of the amnesty killers and supporter of a Ron Paul-like Iraq policy), as well as ad hominem against Thompson. Of course, it is correct about Thompson's flawed support of McCain-Feingold. But that's about it. -
I hope that since you posted all of this stuff about Ron Paul's voting record(which I tried to explain) that you will also look at Fred Thompson's voting record mentioned by Mr. Viguerie. There are a lot of votes listed there. Since you appear, at least, to be the main defender for Mr. Thompson on this board, perhaps you can explain them to the rest of us.
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I am not Fred's defender. (Most of what I've posted is to get away from the sheer volume of "Ron Paul had eggs for breakfast" threads :laugh:
I haven't made my mind up about who I support, and as a minister I will not say so publicly. I have probably said too much about who I'm warm and lukewarm about anyway. But I'm familiar enough with Fred from being in TN that I know his record. My family knew Mr. Baker well, and I knew Lamar Alexander casually.
As I recall, you did try to explain some of Rep. Paul's votes, but some you encouraged me to contact his campaign. Fred doesn't have an official campaign, but there are numerous supporter websites that could answer your questions. If you want to posit a question to me, feel free. I'll do my best. But you're not getting an advocate's answer :) -
Fred Thompson's Bio
http://vote-smart.org/bio.php?can_id=22003
Fred's voting record:
http://vote-smart.org/voting_category.php?can_id=22003
Fred's ratings:
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Thanks to Big Brother, it can be construed as a political endorsement from a church. More importantly, it would potentially alienate me from people I seek to shepherd to maturity in faith or seek to win to Christ. These purposes are far greater to me than any political aim.
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Sounds like crap to me. Reminds me of The Counterfeit Candidate, http://www.amazon.com/dp/B000M4MXAO/?tag=baptis04-20, a book critical of Ronald Reagan, arguing that he wasn't a true conservative.
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You're goading him, so I'll jump to his defense. No, not as far as the IRS is concerned. It's okay for certain ethnic groups to have political endorsements in their pulpits, but not okay for the rest of us if we want to keep our nonprofit status.
Pastors need to be more careful than we ordinary folks when it comes to speaking on certain topics, like politics, because they are more apt to be criticized about what they do or don't do, say or don't say.
Besides, I admire Tom's outlook towards eternal goals, not political ones. -
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I used to never come around for this reason (well, this is one of the reasons). However, I have a legal background and love talking about the Constitution, so it's hard to stay away. However, I do want to stay away from partisanship because the Gospel is too important. -
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I am well aware that criticsim goes with the territory. However, no need for me to invite more by being a shill for the GOP or Dems.
I thought this forum was now safe for the non-hacks who wanted to discuss the topics at hand. Maybe I was wrong.
Bottom line: I'm no Jerry Falwell or Jesse Jackson and never will be. If others think their ministers should be, then that's their problem. I have free speech, and instead of using it as soom do and would like in promoting the Kingdom of Bush, Paul or Clinton, I'm using it to advance the Kingdom of Jesus Christ, a Kingdom I value far more than any other. -
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I think this is getting a little ridiculous, but I'm not going to stop it; be my guest, but watch out with the personal insults please!
Phillip, the ordnance engineer with big boy toys. -
If I have insulted anyone, it was not on purpose. I do apologize.
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