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Secrets in Genesis...

Discussion in 'Creation vs. Evolution' started by BenWest, Mar 12, 2020.

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  1. BenWest

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    God made at least 3 firmaments/Heavens. One on the 2nd Day and others on the 3rd Day
    Adam's entire firmament was completely immersed in water with water above and below it.
    Adam's Earth was only 22.5 feet high on it's tallest mountain
    Adam lived and died on another world but his remains are at the bottom of Lake Van, Turkey.

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    False, since Adam's firmament was more like a submarine, since water was above and below it.Gen 1:7 The firmament was completely immersed in water and protected Adam's Earth from the water into which it was placed. The firmament was made the 2nd Day Genesis 1:8 but Adam's Earth was made the 3rd Day. Genesis 1:9
     
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    Please provide scripture for the 22.5 ft thing.
     
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    That depends on the translation of the text (it is an argument KJO people have made in the past). See Genesis 7:18-20. It is a silly argument, but basically Scripture states that the waters were 15 cubits (22.5 feet) above the highest mountain. The water prevailed more and more so that all the high mountains were covered. The water prevailed 22.5 feet (according to estimation) and the mountains were covered.

    If you treat Scripture as a scientific text book then that leaves the depth of the flood to be 22.5 feet but covering the mountains.

    This is, of course, a very simplistic treatment of the text and it ignores many other possibilities. But that is what the text of scripture states.
     
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    Yes. That conclusion takes some terrible reading comprehension skills even in the KJV.
     
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    It is my understanding the firmament of Genesis 1:3-31 refers to Earth's sky. Earth only has one sky.
     
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    Sure.

    Gen 7:17
    And the flood was forty days upon the earth; and the waters increased, and bare up the ark, and it was lift up above the earth.Gen 7:18And the waters prevailed, and were increased greatly upon the earth; and the ark went upon the face of the waters.Gen 7:19 And the waters prevailed exceedingly upon the earth; and all the high hills, that were under the whole heaven, were covered.

    Gen 7:20 Fifteen cubits upward (22.5 feet) did the waters prevail; and the mountains were covered.
     
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    You are having problems understanding Old English.
    What that means is that the tallest mountains were 15 cubits underwater at peak flood waters.
     
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    Bottomline

    The WOG is not a book of secrets. It is pretty straight forward and most of its message can be understood by 5th graders. The exceptions would include prophecy and some history
     
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    Gen 7:20 Fifteen cubits upward (22.5 feet) did the waters prevail; and the mountains were covered.

    False. It is the typical religious understanding of men who lived more than 3k years ago. Anyway you slice it, when water prevails or covers the tallest mountains, when it is only 22.5 feet deep, is what is actually written. It also fits the description of a Flat Earth, no matter how much you spin it. Adam's Earth was placed on top of water inside a firmament or container. Genesis 1:9-10 Amen?
     
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    Did you notice that God told us more than 3k years ago about a recent discovery of Science? Genesis 2:4 shows that the Big Bang was on the 3rd Day but the first Stars did not appear until some 180 million years after the BB. We May Have Found the First Stars Born After the Big Bang

    God told us that He made other Heavens on the 3rd Day. Genesis 2:4
    He also told us that He made the FIRST Stars on the 4th Day. Genesis 1:16

    It's proof of God since NO man could have known this 3k years ago. It also reveals that each of God's Days are millions of years in man's time. Amen?
     
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    No. No matter how many times you repeat your nonsense, its still nonsense.
     
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    shows that the Big Bang was on the 3rd Day but the first Stars did not appear until some 180 million years after the BB.

    You lost all credibility right there
     
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    Then refute it Scripturally. I don't think you can since God the Spirit of Truth is the Author. Amen?
     
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    Then you must believe that there is one Truth for Scripture and another for Science, History, Genetics and Math. Sounds like an Alt-Truth to me. Can you explain why the first Heaven was made the 2nd Day
    Genesis 1:8 and the other Heavens were made the 3rd Day? Genesis 2:4 The idea of Two Truths is false.
     
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    What is shows is that Adam's small Earth, which had only 4 Rivers which all came from the same source in the Garden of Eden and water his whole world. Genesis 2:10 Adam's small world,inside the bottom of the firmament are at the bottom of a 75 mile wide Lake in the mountains of Ararat exactly as God told us in Genesis 8:4.

    What is interesting is that the Ark was above the mountains on the 150th day/5 months AFTER the flood began. Genesis 7:20-24 and ALSO resting upon the mountains of Ararat on the SAME 150th day/5 months AFTER the flood began. Genesis 8:4 If it's so simple, then please explain. Amen?
     
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    Genesis 7:20. Read it in any version other than KJV or NKJV and you will see it plain as the nose on your face.
     
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    Doesn't compute since God the invisible Spirit made the 1st firmament, which He called Heaven on the 2nd Day. Genesis 1:8 Lord God, the visible God, made other HeavenS on the 3rd Day. Genesis 2:4 Adam's Earth had a firmament/sky and so does our Earth and the 3rd Heaven. Your view is confused.
     
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    Sure. After the later altered versions were changed by different religious sects, let's just believe any version while ignoring a less altered version. It's the formula for confusion.
     
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