Sharpton & Drugs

[The Galatian]

You really should not participate in this kind of conversational confrontation, for you are not versed to accurately handle each subject on an academic level. In conjunction, you are also not able to focus on a multitude of subjects and keep them in their proper prospective and contexts of subject matter.

In other words, you're out of ammunition, and hope a smoke screen will save you.

Through all of these previous posts on this thread and in another topic thread, you have shown your translating and interpreting skills to be most inadequate, thus showing us why you have such a liberal view of God's Word and interpretation of it.

Ah, non-specific accusations. The end is near.

Also, you refuse to accept the facts,

That's a testable assertion. Show me.

can not accept the fact that other people have differing opinions from yours,

Well, that's silly. Anyone could tell you have differenct opinions than I do. The difference is that you aren't able to support them.

and especially when they back up their opinions on facts.

You'd be much more believable if you were specific. Or maybe you wouldn't. Show me.

You then turn from the subject matter and run of on rabbit trails to try to draw from the subject matter.

Say, if I abandoned the thread and tried a little ad hom to save myself?

I've forgiven you for everything. However, I'm going to hold you accountable. I've asked several questions. Be careful.

 

[Justified]

Galat,

I now rest my case!

 

[longshot]

Hi Galatian,
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At this point, you might go check what scripture says about false witness. And you might ask God to give you another chance, and make sure these folks don't hear about your libel. Of course, if you can prove that they did those things, you're in the clear.
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Never heard of Sharpton till the Tawana Brawley story broke. Dont think Sharpton was to worried about libel at that time? I wont presume to judge anyones salvation because I am not qualified nor is it my calling (think we'll all have some surprises on judgement day), however, the Revs Sharpton and Jackson have both shown political aspirations and that opens them up to just about anything in our system, (better or worse). In fact, the comments on this board about this dynamic duo are quite tame. They belong on TBN and qualify for a spot on the TV Baffoons thread in the polls forum.

 

[The Galatian]

Oh, I think Sharpton is a complete jerk. He very well might be a liar. Few of us never lie.

However, that isn't a very good reason to call him a "drug lord", and it strikes me as an invitation to have one's butt sued, unless one can verify it.

False witness is not justified, even if one's target is not a very nice man. Or so God says.

 

[Candide]

I don't think Jesus advocated such racist statements as ship the blacks that complain back to Africa. Perhaps I missed that verse.

About Galatians' use of the term pharisee, while God's word may or may not change over time, our language most certainly does. Much like the terms Philistine and Samaratin now have evolved meanings, so too does the word Pharisee. Pharisee now also means:

A hypocritically self-righteous person.

I'll leave everyone else to debate whether or not claiming you're saved while spouting obviously un-Christ like subtle racist posts counts as being "hypocritically self-righteous".

 

[Justified]

Can,

Did I say or imply that?

WHERE!

I don't think Jesus advocated such racist statements as ship the blacks that complain back to Africa.

 

[trying2understand]

Originally posted by Justified:
Can,

Did I say or imply that?

WHERE!

</font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr /> I don't think Jesus advocated such racist statements as ship the blacks that complain back to Africa.

</font>[/QUOTE]How about your very first post in this thread.

And then again in your second post.

I stopped looking at that point.

 

[Justified]

Try,

Do you and Can go to the same church?

Because you two are in the same field...LEFT! WAY...LEFT! Maybe even in FOUL territory!

Then pick and choose as you may, for this seems to be your way, even in Bible interpretation!

But, my references are made to the fact that if a person puts so much emphasis on their ethnic back round and are unhappy with a country, then maybe they should go back to the origin that they hold so dear, instead of trying to impose their anti-American ideas on the rest of populous.

This not only goes for the African, but also the Oriental, Spanish, any of the Caucasian, or any others that might be out there.

The boat is still ready!

 

[trying2understand]

Originally posted by Justified:
Try,

Do you and Can go to the same church?

Because you two are in the same field...LEFT! WAY...LEFT! Maybe even in FOUL territory!

Then pick and choose as you may, for this seems to be your way, even in Bible interpretation!

But, my references are made to the fact that if a person puts so much emphasis on their ethnic back round and are unhappy with a country, then maybe they should go back to the origin that they hold so dear, instead of trying to impose their anti-American ideas on the rest of populous.

This not only goes for the African, but also the Oriental, Spanish, any of the Caucasian, or any others that might be out there.

The boat is still ready!

Interesting response.

You do not know me, my politics, my faith tradition, nor my personal habits concerning interpretation of the Bible, but still you feel that it is necessary to comment on them.

It would seem to me that a truly Christian response to Candide's concern, and my subsequent post, would be something along the lines of:

"I'm sorry. That is not what I meant to say."

But hey, that's just my opinion.

[ July 27, 2002, 03:19 PM: Message edited by: trying2understand ]

 

[Justified]

Try,

I can only address as you post, and you said that you stopped looking after my 2nd post on this thread. There obviously have been many more since.

I stopped looking at that point.

As for your politics, you may not care if people like Jesse Benedict Jackson are trying to under mine the United States of America, but I do!

This post has been editted by Justified because of a mis-understanding.

[ July 27, 2002, 06:46 PM: Message edited by: Justified ]

 

[trying2understand]

Originally posted by Justified:


And the boat is still ready!

Edited due to understanding.

No apology necessary. Sometimes it's difficult to understand what another means when communication is limited to writing.

[ July 27, 2002, 07:11 PM: Message edited by: trying2understand ]

 

[Justified]

Try,

Then I must HUMBLELY ask for your forgivness. As I read your post several times, as I do with everyones to be sure I am interperting it right, I did not see it that way. But now that you have explained it the way you did, I can see that.

So, again, I'm sorry.

 

[Candide]

Yep, you outted me. I'm a progressive. To shame!

And I quote:

"The point is that they are always saying how bad the USA is for them and their people. So, if they are so unhappy and don't agree with the US, then ship them back to Africa, after all they need help over there too!"

Whether or not you do damage control to say, "Well, I meant any nation!" is irrelevant. You are quite clearly referring to the black community throughout this thread. Do you think Falwell should be shipped back to Europe? What about Robertson? What about Rush? They're always saying how bad the US government is. Oh wait, but you agree with them!... and they're white.

 

[Justified]

Can,

There is a big difference!

The people you mention are not inciting riots or revolt. If they are, then they need to be shipped out too!

And their boat will be made ready, too!

 

[trying2understand]

Originally posted by Justified:
Can,

There is a big difference!

The people you mention are not inciting riots or revolt. If they are, then they need to be shipped out too!

And their boat will be made ready, too!

If these people really are inciting riots or revolt, would it not be more consistent with our system of law to charge them and then try them?

Shipping them back as you say, violates the very heart of our system of justice. Are these people also not innocent until proven guilty? Do they not have a right to trial before sentencing?

Just to be a smart guy, it could perhaps be said that you are inciting to revolt against our system of justice.

Ever given any thought to taking a cruise of your own?

Just teasing, of course.

 

[Justified]

Try,

Sure would, I would love to escort them all the way home, and then enjoy the cruise back to the good ole USA! WITHOUT THEM!

 

[DocCas]

Whenever I see opinions that American citizens should be deported because of their political or cultural opinions I have to wonder if perhaps Adolf Hitler is alive and well and living in the United States!

I am a first generation American, the first of my family to be born in this country. But I am just as much an American citizen as one who is descended from the original settlers to this country. To imply that I can be deported due to my political opinions is to deny the very basis of our freedom, the Consitition of the United States. In my opinion such statements are the most unamerican thing I have ever witnessed. If this country ever falls, it will not fall from outward force, but from the inward corruption of its citizens who allow the Constitution and our system of laws to be trampled. Quite frankly, some of you people scare me!

 

[The Galatian]

This is why the founders made it extremely difficult (practically impossible) to strip a native-born American of citizenship. They knew that such things were the tools of tyrants and knaves.

They knew people of that sort would always exist, and they planned accordingly.

[ July 28, 2002, 08:34 PM: Message edited by: The Galatian ]