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Should pastors be required to know original Biblical languages?

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  1. Yeshua1

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    I enjoy the Nas/esv, but thanks for suggestion!
     
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    yes, as both of them were founded in order to have pastors and bible teachers trained up for Christian service, so even accountants required to be skilled in original languages...​
     
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    your example highlights that the Greek/Hebrew enables the pastor to bring out nuances just not there in the English translation in certain places!
     
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    He has been aware of it since first came out, its just that the 1984 niv was our pew bible, so just kept the new Niv as its update....
     
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    I did not mean to teach, but that all students were required to learn them, regardless if studying to be pastors or not!
     
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    none of the English translations are 100 % accurate to those originals, but good news is that they do not need to be to have an infallible version!
     
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    A bishop then must be [able to] study in Hebrew, Aramaic, Greek, to show himself approved as a pastor unto God...

    Yes, thanks. I had completely overlooked that text!
     
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    Oh, yes.
     
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    Easy accusation.
     
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    why should we limit them to just being to use and understand the English translation though?
     
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    The kjvo are the only ones that hold to inspiration afforded to even english translations!
     
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    No one is limiting anyone from reading more than just English. The point is to limit your adding to God’s word. It simply does not say what you want it to say.
     
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    Surely you know that "study" in the KJV doesn't refer to what we think of as "study" today.
     
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    I think that I stated they should, not that they must!
     
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    the basic principle still applies....
     
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    There is no such thing as an infallible translation. Now the whole reason for textual criticism is to recover the original readings of textual copies where known variants are in evidence. Inerrancey has to do with God's word, not any variant from God's word, whether do to changes in copies or errors in translations.
     
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    originals were Inerrant, and credible translations would be infallible...
     
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    Then why suggest that is part of God’s qualifications for pastors.
     
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    I think this is a good question and a great thread topic...
    Please, let's not let this devolve into a KJV/KJVO conversation.
    This is about pastors studying the Original languages.
     
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    Original language study is not about retranslating an English translation of the Bible.
    I affirm the value of studying them.
    What's wrong is the misuse of such knowledge. But that isn't exclusive to original languages either. All education can be abused.
    Also, this is not always about higher degrees. One can study the original languages informally, at home, in the office etc.
    I got my degree online. Most of the materials I used, (and all the materials for Hebrew and Greek courses) were available to any Joe Schmoe who had a coupla' hundred bucks and a desire to learn.

    Anyone who has studied the original languages knows that sometimes a word can have nuances of meanings which add some depth to what is written and translated. I am not talking about preachers regularly opening their bibles and acting like the word used "SHOULD BE ______" That annoys me to death. I have nowhere near the qualifications to question the abilities of the professionals who translated the ESV, KJV, NASB etc.....and neither do 98% of pastors who like to say: "The word should be ______". However, when different translations disagree (as they sometimes do) a knowledge of the originals weighs in on whether I agree with one particular translation's rendering vs. another's etc.etc.

    Furthermore, studying other languages forces one to understand even English grammar better.
    It is an extremely valuable tool.
    One thing you cannot suggest IMO is that (used appropriately) someone with no knowledge of original languages is better equipped than someone with decent working knowledge.
    One of them only has wrenches and pliers, the other also has a socket set in his toolbox.
     
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