Should there be a religious test for immigrants?

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  1. NaasPreacher (C4K) Well-Known Member

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    From another thread I did not want to take off topic.

     
  2. Martin Active Member

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  3. tragic_pizza New Member

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    The very idea is horrifying.

    Not all Muslims are out to destroy America.

    America is not a theocracy.

    There is more than one religion in America.
     
  4. LadyEagle <b>Moderator</b> <img src =/israel.gif>

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    True muslims that live by their book, the quran, are.

    Ever wonder what motivates muslims to immigrate to America from muslim countries?
     
  5. Rufus_1611 New Member

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  6. 2 Timothy2:1-4 New Member

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    I do not think a religious test should be required. But they should have to assimilate to some degree.

    speak english
    enter legally
    and swear loyalty
     
  7. Rufus_1611 New Member

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    All of which are included in the naturalization process that this nation no longer abides by.
     
  8. LadyEagle <b>Moderator</b> <img src =/israel.gif>

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    Assimilation - now that is the key. However, muslims do not generally assimilate: Consider these news stories:

    Muslims seek prayer room at Minneapolis Airport:
    http://www.breitbart.com/news/2006/12/01/D8LOC15O0.html

    The mosque in little Katy, Texas population 13,000
    http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/16095716/

    Dell gives in for muslim evening prayers:
    http://news.zdnet.com/2100-9584_22-5623543.html

    Head-to-toe burqa style hospital gowns in England & US (Maine - its on the internet)
    http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2006/09/05/AR2006090500546.html

    Hamtramck, Michigan population 23,000 - call to prayer from mosque five x per day (which was put to a vote in this town which has a high number of islamic immigrants and won)
    http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2004/04/20/national/main612805.shtml

    Lewiston, Maine & FGM with hyperlinks about the whole clash:
    http://www.vdare.com/walker/lewiston.htm

    ...to name a few.
     
  9. El_Guero New Member

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    Yes, there should be a religious test of: "Would you allow your religion to order you to betray the USA?"

    ;)

     
  10. LadyEagle <b>Moderator</b> <img src =/israel.gif>

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    Maybe we should outlaw islam in the west until they permit freedom of religion (including Christianity) without persecution in islamic countries...
     
  11. El_Guero New Member

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    That's one idea!

     
  12. NaasPreacher (C4K) Well-Known Member

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    Yup, thats a great idea, take our pattern for liberty from Muslim nations.
     
  13. LeBuick New Member

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    I agree and would add show the ability to contribute to the society...

    By this I mean if after several years you are still on government assistance then you should be sent back to live on your country of origin. If you want to go after the american dream and contribute somehow to the society then that is great.
     
  14. LadyEagle <b>Moderator</b> <img src =/israel.gif>

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    A muslim may swear loyalty to the "host" country (such as the US), but in the quran, it is permissible to lie to infidels. So you see, swearing loyalty to a country would be words only and that criteria of swearing loyalty will not work. No one comes before allah or another muslim when push comes to shove.

    Even our own military has had problems with muslim loyalty from muslims serving in our armed forces.

    http://www.hvk.org/articles/1103/19.html
     
  15. 777 Well-Known Member
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    Is that ^ a "link"?

    And so is importing terrorists and trying to excuse each and every little act of protest they do when they get here!


    Link?


    Oh, okay. It's fine then, only a few of them want to kill us. Sure hope the day doesn't come when every Muslim is out to destroy America!

    Link?

    It isn't? You do Know Sharia law kind fits the definition of a theocracy - i.e., a theocracy doesn't neccessarily have to be Christian in nature?

    Link?

    Not if we keep this up, Captain Obvious!
     
  16. LadyEagle <b>Moderator</b> <img src =/israel.gif>

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    http://www.amconmag.com/01_13_03/borchgrave7.html
     
  17. NaasPreacher (C4K) Well-Known Member

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    Agreed - 100%
     
  18. 777 Well-Known Member
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    ^ Okay!

    Because their only loyalty is to Allah as you say.


    Islam Online, and you probably have the link and actually read what's there, has advice on to moblize Muslims in America:


    http://www.islamonline.net/livedialogue/english/Browse.asp?hGuestID=605R88

    That's a quote from Ismail Royer, a convicted terrorist.
     
  19. El_Guero New Member

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    I disagree - there are multiple (& credible) reports that there is an islamic conspiracy to immigrate into western countries and take them over.

    The requirement for immigration is NOT in the Constitution. The first priority of immigation is the security of the USA.

    We are not required to offer (much less give) the freedoms afforded by the Constitution to any foreigner.

    In light of the fact that it is a published islamic plan to use immigration to take over the USA, we should not be allowing muslims in without SBI's being run & loyalty being ensured.