So how many Bodies does Christ have?
Sola scriptura or prima scriptura
Discussion in 'Other Christian Denominations' started by Anastasia, Oct 24, 2011.
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Matt Black Well-Known MemberSite Supporter
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Men prayed and studied texts to see how other texts fit with the OT scripture and the apostles. Then those men concluded on the texts that would complete the set of scripture. If we did not respect the decision of those men, then we would each have to go through the process again ourselves.
Scripture may be the best commentary on scripture, but it is not the only one that is ever worth reading to understand scripture. -
Thank God someone from without shared the gospel with me before it was too late. Their "Tradition" condemns people to hell.
Enter ye in at the strait gate: for wide is the gate, and broad is the way, that leadeth to destruction, and many there be which go in thereat: (Matthew 7:13) -
Let me put it this way. 54 years ago I took a course in calculus. As far as I know, the text was inerrant, without error. I "believed" and "believed in" the text but still flunked. In the same way, an inerrant Bible is pragmatically useless or at least limited without an inerrant interpretation. 90% of the arguing on this forum are about interpretations of the text. In some way, the text is insufficient to understand the material it contains same as my calc text might have been.
The CRC Handbook Of Chemistry was first published in 1914. By 1958 the CRC math tables were well vetted and were universally assumed to be inerrant by the people who used them. Far as I know, they were. No one ever argued over the accuracy of the tables or their purpose (meaning). By any reasonable standard, the CRC math tables were at least as inerrant as the Bible and at least as useful for the task for which they were written. -
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Here is an excellent article by my friend RC Sproul in which he explains and defends sola scriptura ---
http://www.biblicalstudies.org.uk/article_sola_sproul.html
However, I really like his closing which I have copied here, in which he shows some grace to those that disagree with him ---
"We are concerned about Sola Scriptura for many reasons. But we affirm it in the final analysis not because it was the view of the Reformers, not because we slavishly revere Hodge and Warfield, not even because we are afraid of dominoes or a difficult apologetic. We defend it and express our deep concern about it because we believe it is the truth. It is a truth we do not want to negotiate. We earnestly desire dialogue with our evangelical brothers and colaborers who differ from us. We want to heal the wounds that controversy so frequently brings. We know our own views are by no means inerrant. But we believe inerrancy is true and is of vital importance to our common cause of the gospel.
Further dialogue within the evangelical world should at least help us clarify what real differences there are among us. Such clarification is important if there is to be any hope of resolving those differences. We do not intend to communicate that a person's Christian faith stands or falls with his view of Scripture. We do not question the Christian commitment of advocates of limited inerrancy. What we do question is the correctness of their doctrine of Scripture, as they question ours. But we consider this debate, as serious as it is, a debate between members of the household of God. May our Father bring us to unity here as he has in many glorious affirmations of his gospel." -
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Excellent quote! Thanks for sharing. -
And profited in the Jews' religion above many my equals in mine own nation, being more exceedingly zealous of the traditions of my fathers. But when it pleased God, who separated me from my mother's womb, and called me by his grace, (Galatians 1:14-15)
But he answered and said unto them, Why do ye also transgress the commandment of God by your tradition? (Matthew 15:3)
But in vain they do worship me, teaching for doctrines the commandments of men. (Matthew 15:9)
And he said unto them, Full well ye reject the commandment of God, that ye may keep your own tradition. (Mark 7:9)
Making the word of God of none effect through your tradition, which ye have delivered: and many such like things do ye. (Mark 7:13)
Beware lest any man spoil you through philosophy and vain deceit, after the tradition of men, after the rudiments of the world, and not after Christ. (Colossians 2:8) -
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I Cor 11:2: I praise you for remembering me in everything, and for holding on to the teachings, just as I passed them on toyou.
I Cor 11:23: For I received from the Lord what I also passed on to you...
2 Thess 2:15: So then, brothers, stand firm and hold to the teachings we passed on to you, whether by word of mouth or by letter.
So tell me, which of these traditions condemn men to Hell? -
In each and every case cited it refers to the doctrine and practices of the Word of God.
The RCC encyclopedia states that tradition, whether oral or written is that collected information gathered over centuries of time that is passed on from one generation to another.
You made two quotes from Paul's first epistle to the Corinthians. Consider: Paul just got saved on the road to Damascus, well after Pentecost, the beginning of the Church Age, which was about 30 A.D. Let's say he got saved within three years of that time. Even from the year 30 A.D. itself, 1Cor. was written in 55 A.D.!! How much "tradition" do you think that Paul has collected in the 25 years Christianity has been in existence. Your position is ridiculous here, as it holds no water with those, as the RCC, who define tradition as information gathered over centuries--not just 25 years.
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Besides, I believe that we Baptists have a few traditions of men ourselves. Hmmm... Let's see - alter calls, dinner on the ground, revivals, Christmas contotas, the structure of the Sunday worhsip service, Wednesday night prayer meetings, etc. By your disdain of the traditions of men, you might want to re-examine your own beliefs and your clear intollerance of those whose "traditions" differ from your own.
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