Featured Some think 'Angels' can procreate. The Scripture [KJB] declares, 'Not so.'

Nobody disputes that

Nobody said you did, these subjective examples of yours complete with photos don't help much is the point

 

Then why raise the issue to begin with? Let it go, please.

They do for people who are oppressed and searching for help.

Like they have in the past on other Christian websites, such testimony helps people who have had similar experiences and cannot find help because most of the Baptists are hard-headed about such things and don't believe them.

 

Sigh...."even as" in no way means that angels are being spoken of in verse seven. There is a connection here but it is not angels. Verse five is connected as well. The even as is a reference to the fact that God punished them in each case. In verse five they were punished for their unbelief. In verse six they were punished for their rebellion. In verse seven they are punished for homosexuality hence the reason to this day it is referred to as "sodomy". Verse six is the only verse here that speaks of angels.

What is cheap and disgusting is your XXX rated claim.

uh huh.

 

You're done. :wavey:

 

Concerning the fallen angels mentioned in Jude 1

Jude 1:6 And the angels which kept not their first estate, but left their own habitation, he hath reserved in everlasting chains under darkness unto the judgment of the great day....NOW NOTICE....

7 Even as Sodom and Gomorrha, and the cities about them in like manner, giving themselves over to fornication, and going after strange flesh, are set forth for an example, suffering the vengeance of eternal fire.

Not only are the fallen angels connected with the sodomites in vs 7 but the Greek word for 'strange flesh' heteros ἕτερος literally meaning 'different'...'altered' and the word for flesh is 'sarx'. (Strongs Exhaustive Concordance). THEREFORE...the phrase means 'altered flesh'...not homosexual flesh. The perverts of Sodom not only sodomized each other they also had sexual relations with devils who appeared as humans. This is a big part of the reason for the destruction of Sodom & Gomorrha. Reason with me: why would Jude mention the matter of sexual fornication via homosexual acts twice in the same verse? The fact is he doesn't. One refers to physical sexual sin with the same sex and the other refers to having relations with fallen angels.

The Bible makes it clear that in the last days the evil forces behind the coming gov. of antichrist will mingle their demonic seed with humans. Daniel 2:43.

Dan 2:43 And whereas thou sawest iron mixed with miry clay, they shall mingle themselves with the seed of men: but they shall not cleave one to another, even as iron is not mixed with clay.

But that mingling will not work well and the offspring will be either very deformed or monstrous, a la 'Rosemary's Baby'. How awful. But it's a reality.

 

Strange Flesh:




sarx


Probably from the base of G4563; flesh (as stripped of the skin), that is, (strictly) the meat of an animal (as food), or (by extension) the body (as opposed to the soul (or spirit), or as the symbol of what is external, or as the means of kindred, or (by implication) human nature (with its frailties (physically or morally) and passions), or (specifically) a human being (as such): - carnal (-ly, + -ly minded), flesh ([-ly]).

 

Totally agree. Jude is going through a list of people that have been judged by God. Verse 5 is about the unbelieving Israelites that never saw the promised land, verse 6 is about the fallen angels, and verse 7 is about the sinners at Sodom and Gomorrah. There is no linkage between verse 6 and 7; it's simply a listing of different entities that were judged.

Try a different translation:

7 as Sodom and Gomorrah, and the cities around them in a similar manner to these, [NKJV]

7 In a similar way, Sodom and Gomorrah and the surrounding towns gave themselves up to sexual immorality and perversion. [NIV]

 

ESV


Jud 1:7 just as Sodom and Gomorrah and the surrounding cities, which likewise indulged in sexual immorality and pursued unnatural desire, serve as an example by undergoing a punishment of eternal fire

 

Bad theology shows up in posts like number 26......ludicrous would not cover it.......
By the way RM and I differ on some theology but he does not introduce such foolishness as you are trying to do......your done alright!

 

Next we will be seeing that Christ is going to return in a UFO. :laugh:

 

:thumbsup: this dreamer fancies himself as the Bob Larson type.....we have gone from bigfoot to sexy demons fornicating.....unbelievable...but he saw it:laugh::laugh:

 

For those who still know how to think honestly and with a sense of loyalty to rightly dividing the word of truth.

Post #26 is right on target.

I would say; the Christians in our day (& heretics among them) that are critical of this position are going to have to eat their words as time passes and the truthfulness of this matter is made plain before all, but the fact is it has already been made plain and I just touched the tip of the iceberg in giving that evidence (hint, hint, hint): the Star Child skull discovered in Mexico had DNA that revealed a human mother but not a human father. This was done by empirical investigation and is objective, not guesswork. But that's just one among many.

 

Chuck Missler nailed it in this terrific message on the Nephilim:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7JbIxE0CsXo

 

Would say that the Flood took care of any of the Hybrids among the human race, if they had ever even existed, and that the bible makes it really clear that in the end times satan and his gang will be let loosed upon the earth, but does NOT teach that they will produce offspring!

that smacks of the ole Aliens have been abducting and having sex with human females!

 

It smacks of all kinds of weird and erotic things.

 

No. You aren't seeing it brother. The 'sons of God' were fallen angels, not the offspring of Seth. The 'daughters of men' were merely sinners who cohabited with them, not the female offspring of Cain. Why would all the men be good and why in the world would they all marry all those wicked females in the first place? That makes no sense at all and you aren't thinking clearly on this issue.

The hybrids were all destroyed.........BUT..........there were other devils that later 'left their first habitation' and they produced the giants (& monstrous offspring) that became the Zamzumim, Emim, and Anakims. Goliath was among that demonic offspring and his children revealed thd DNA of the next generation i.e. Ishbibenob had six fingers on each hand and six toes on each foot. That is a sure sign of nephilim.

 

God did not make angels so that they can have sex with each other - in their own species -- let alone across species. See Matt 22.

It is not a question of being made to procreate and then told not to.

It is a matter of not being able to do it even in the best case -- within their same species.

Sort of like God not giving humans the ability to make themselves invisible and walk through walls or fly up to heaven to the throne of God the way Angels can.

We can't do it at all - so no misusing something you don't even have to start with.

in Christ,

Bob