Pot. Kettle........never mind.
If you had not engaged in the very things that you are accusing glf of doing, one might be persuaded. As it is, and since you are well-known for doing exactly what you are resenting what you perceive glf for doing, your question is seen, not as a legitimate question, but as the question of a self-styled martyr.
Unfortunate.
The Archangel
Sovereignty of God in the Conversion of Saul
Discussion in 'Baptist Theology & Bible Study' started by Luke2427, Jan 23, 2011.
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The Archangel Well-Known Member
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How about we get back to the topic of the thread?
1. How do Calvinists affirm Apostolic Authority while attempting to claim that all believers have been saved in the same manner as Paul (effectually)?
2. Doesn't the uniqueness of God's divine intervention in Paul's life mean anything, or is this meant to be seen as a typical way in which God brings every individual to salvation?
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The Archangel Well-Known Member
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But once again, though a THOUSAND people were to point out your problems- you are oblivious.
I submit EVERY SINGLE PERSON who has ever debated you in a heated manner to any degree will agree with Archangel, glfredrick, myself and others who I will do them the courtesy of not naming that you have some serious problems debating people who defeat you. -
You and webdog are cut out of the same cloth, it seems to me. You are just an older version, I suppose. -
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Luke2427 said: ↑I suppose we have an accord then on baptistboard concerning the Sovereignty of God in the salvation of Saul.
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Luke2427 said: ↑This has already been addressed. Why do you keep bringing it up?
NO ONE is saying that God saves everybody in the same manner as he saved Saul. No one is arguing that God saves everybody by knocking them to the ground and blinding them with a light. That was the means whereby God chose to make Saul willing.
God made you willing another way. He made me willing another way.
The only point is that God saves by making people willing.
Already answered.
Same question and already answered.Click to expand...
I was thinking only of these verses, course we usually think of the ones for our purpose,
And we know that all things work together for good to them that love God, to them who are the called according to [his] purpose. For whom he did foreknow, he also did predestinate [to be] conformed to the image of his Son, that he might be the firstborn among many brethren.
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Luke2427 said: ↑Yea, he does. Archangel conducts himself far better than you on here- and better than me, for that matter.Click to expand...
But once again, though a THOUSAND people were to point out your problems- you are oblivious.Click to expand...
I submit EVERY SINGLE PERSON who has ever debated you in a heated manner to any degree will agree with Archangel, glfredrick, myself and others who I will do them the courtesy of not naming that you have some serious problems debating people who defeat you.Click to expand... -
Earth Wind and Fire Well-Known MemberSite SupporterRobert Snow said: ↑Wow, you stand up for a fellow Calvinists, how bold!
Webdog points out the gross error of Calvinism; you seem to be the oblivious one.
I guess you are as pure as the driven snow, right?Click to expand...
Doctrine divides, well so be it. I have to keep comments like "the Gross error of Calvinism" as motivator. That's God's reminder to me that I am to go to a Calvinist Church, raise my family as Calvinist, associate only with Calvinist with my friendships, and read only Calvinist books. Praise god for putting people like you in my path....to strengthen my convictions to Reformed Theology. -
Earth said: ↑Praise god for putting people like you in my path....to strengthen my convictions to Reformed Theology.Click to expand...
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Earth Wind and Fire Well-Known MemberSite SupporterRobert Snow said: ↑Likewise, the Calvinists I meet show me that many will read into the scripture things that strengthen their erroneous view, while leaving out verses that condemn their view. The same thing applies to all false beliefs and errors in theology, regardless of whether or not the adherents are Christians or not.Click to expand...
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Robert Snow said: ↑Likewise, the Calvinists I meet show me that many will read into the scripture things that strengthen their erroneous view, while leaving out verses that condemn their view.Click to expand...
I seriously doubt that Calvinists are telling you that other Calvinists are doing the "bad things" you described.
The same thing applies to all false beliefs and errors in theology, regardless of whether or not the adherents are Christians or not.Click to expand... -
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If it was good enough for warfield, it's good enough for me. And all the Calvinist said
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