Okay Frenchy, you started it, now let's see if you can finish it.
Just how did I "distort" those scriptures?
Take This Christian Music Test
Discussion in 'General Baptist Discussions' started by Frenchy, Apr 30, 2006.
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Rbell when i did that study it was based on the music in the youth group just play some REZ BAND songs and see what I mean it was extremely loud and distorted very HARD ROCK. and this was on a Sun morning. if you cannot hear the words it is distorted no matter what the words say. and when you can hear the words they should be edifying and glorifying not what this youth pastor had in his collection. I think the bible verses speak for themselves i have had many who see no problem with the verses including pastors.
There is no self control or peace in the music today and if it is so watered down that it can be played on a secular radio station then why call it christian? if nothing else all it is, is FEEL GOOD music which in itself is neither right nor wrong, but permissable.
Please people do a search and listen to some hard rock christian music and you will see the distortion and noise and lack of peace, joy and self control and lack of edification i am talking about. -
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http://www.av1611.org/crktstin.html
The domain tells me all I need to know about this "Christian" link. Dial-the-Truth Ministries is a clearinghouse of sloppily-reasoned, pseudo-Christian drivel. With respect to Christian music, their main argument is second-order guilt by association, along the lines of, "This Christian band is evil because they hired a video director who worked on an evil song with another band," or, "That Christian band is evil because they covered an otherwise harmless song originally by this artist who also recorded an evil song."
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The music itself is not christian. It is the same music that is played on the rock and roll stations. If you call the music played on KLOVE and other stations like it christian, then you must also call the music played on DC101 or other stations like it christian too. Because that music was on DC101 and others before it was on KLOVE.
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Frenchy, interesting that you like Sandi Patti. She lived a life of adultery while a Christian music star. By your standards, you should not listen to her music.
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Here are some REZ BAND (Heavey Metal "Christian) lyrics click on songs but beware you might need some ear plugs!
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Hope Of Glory have to disagree with you on the effects of the beat...even scientist disagree with you!
From your first link:
All the plants that were next to the rock music - LEANED AWAY FROM THE SPEAKERS - trying to get away from the music! And to show that it was not just the noise itself - the plants next to the classical music - LEANED TOWARD THE SPEAKERS - actually trying to get closer to the music.
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Originally posted by MRCoon:
2. The rest of you that like your CCM and/or other influences (i.e. smoking, drinking, cussing, etc)...please I challenge you to not do any research online or in another person's commentary but for one week make this a personal devotion and prayer and see what God tells/leads you to do. Serious, God-intensive, Bible-only study will answer a lot of issues in our Christian walk.Click to expand...
I've shared many times here about how, when I got saved, I threw away hundreds of records, thinking I was pleasing God by "destroying my idols".
I went out and bought books by the Peters' Brothers (who, themselves, later changed their minds about CCM and some mainstream music), Fletcher Brothers (who turned out to be an idiot), Bill Gothard, "Hell's Bells" and all of that stuff.
It was only after serious prayer and study that I realized that, while some may have a conviction not to listen to some kinds of music, not all music of any one genre is bad, and not everyone has the same convictions.
I meant well, but I was driven by my emotions, rather than any sort of Godly discernment.
Now Playing: Marty Robbins - "A Lifetime of Song: 1951-1982" -
Yes I know MP the music i have was before she did that and i haven't bought any ever since. just goes to show what happens when you are in the public eye and get all that fame. your eyes turn off Christ and on self and what man thinks.
Makes me sick to see parents who want to make their children to become STARS not realizing the pain and heart aches and SIN they will have to indure all for the price of fame. NOT WORTH IT i say.
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Originally posted by Frenchy:
Here are some REZ BAND (Heavey Metal "Christian) lyrics click on songs but beware you might need some ear plugs!
http://rez-band.lyrics-songs.com/Click to expand...
Grateful Dead - "Dick's Picks #11" -
Frenchy says:
let me give an example of a few artist i think are sound who have a beat.
Kathy Troccoli
. . . and right off the bat, he posts an artist who, if I recall correctly, is a Roman Catholic.
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Mike I posted that before i saw your post. i do not need to defend anything these bands do all anyone has to do is click on these links, put in an artist name asking for their lyrics and their OWN website and music and dress and interveiws will all speak for themselves. I have given the best arguments anyone has on this subject and am fine with all the rhetoric, the fact remains many will be educated because of this thread and that is ALL that matters AMEN!
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Originally posted by standingfirminChrist:
When we reveal the sinful lifestyles of the CCM artists, and the evil behind the music they play, we are deemed to be witchhunters.Click to expand...
You're saying things about them that may or may not be true and you never bother to try to back it up or explain how you know these things.
Given what the Bible says about gossip and slander, honestly, I would worry much more about you guys than I would about some crappy musician, just because he may play a song that has a beat.
I will follow the footsteps of Jesus and continue to expose sin for what it is regardless of the whited sepulchres of today's society.Click to expand...
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I have seen Kathy Troccli in our church and according to her testimony is SAVED! if she is still a Catholic by afflication that is her business. i know several SAVED Catholics.
Putting a car in the barn doesn't make that car a horse. you either are or you are not.
even better here is a supposed Catholic who's words are MORE doctrinaly SOUND and EDIFYING than supposed Baptist or other sound denominations :confused: -
Originally posted by Frenchy:
Mike I posted that before i saw your post. i do not need to defend anything these bands doClick to expand...
Otherwise, all you're doing is just more of the same old gossipping and rumor mongoring that you've been doing all along.
Now, can you back up your claim or can't you?
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Mike yes i did we were obviously writing at the same time you just happen to beat me to it. don't call me liar i have no reason to lie
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I am done argueing with teenagers or 20 something. i am assuming that is my audience?
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