"But the natural man receiveth not the things of the Spirit of God:
for they are foolishness unto him: neither can he know them,
because they are spiritually discerned." I Corinthians 2:14
Even this verse is used through the lense of the T . When it's not talking about
the Gospel or a man who is not regenerated cannot believe the Gospel.
Its contrasting what the fleshy believer cannot understand as apposed to the wisdom paul can speak and be understood by the mature ( 1.cor 2v6 )
Calvinist do not understand scripture in context
because they take context apart to make it appear to agree with there tulip. Or they just flat out ignore what they don't agree with. For instance John 6:44 and John 12:32. Both written by the same man. Both about being drawn by God John 6:44 limits who is drawn and John 12:32 draws all men.
Actually your not able to describe what you believe because what you believe is not explained in scripture.
MB
"But the natural man receiveth not the things of the Spirit of God:
for they are foolishness unto him: neither can he knowthem,
because they are spiritually discerned." I Corinthians 2:14
Paul is speaking of this;
1Co 2:10
But God hath revealed them unto us by his Spirit: for the Spirit searcheth all things, yea, the deep things of God. The milk of the word is understood by all men. As Usual Calvinist claim that verse 14 applies to the whole Word of God but when we look to see what is being talked about in the passage we find that it is only the deeper things of God and not the entirety of the Word. All can hear the gospel or it's completely useless and of no effect yet God's word is always effectual.
MB
"But the natural man receiveth not the things of the Spirit of God:
for they are foolishness unto him: neither can he know them,
because they are spiritually discerned." I Corinthians 2:14
themis 'the Things of the Spirit of God', as in "anything that exists in that Higher Realm of Reality, where God is Spirit, and it is a Spiritual Thing, as opposed to, 'a fleshly thing'".
The Deep Things of God are the areas of insight into The Eternal Godhead, beyond the beginning areas of Entering The Spirit Realm.
The first is the comparison between the Fleshly Realm and The Spiritual Realm.
The later is a comparison between General Spirit Reality Knowledge and The More Private and Holy areas, of The Lord's Revealed Divine Wisdom and Whole Council of God.
them doesn't mean The Deep Things of God any more than it does, "a person"(?),
as you wrote:
"Are you saying you know them, then, or not at all?"
"Proper English will get you the answer. By saying "them" you are implying a person. When you really mean the deep things of God".
I think I know who made this one up.
The verse says what the verse says.
Back again:
"But the natural man receiveth not the things of the Spirit of God: for they are foolishness unto him: neither can he know them, because they are spiritually discerned." I Corinthians 2:14
The natural man, who has no Spiritual Discernment, because they have not received The Spirit of God,
Does Not, at all, receive the Things of The Spirit of God.
While, on the other hand, "God hath revealed them unto us" (His Children who HAVE received The Holy Spirit,) by His Spirit:
so The Saved could, CAN, & Do receive Spiritual Things,
even to the extent of those Deep Things
The Omniscient Holy Spirit SEARCHES out (to Tell us).
"for the Spirit searcheth all things, yea, the deep things of God".
There is nothing about the Sovereignty of God in the Bible. The Bible says He is all mighty all powerful. It never says He is
Sovereign.Enough said..
MB