I agree with this.
The coupe de grace of deniers of original sin
Discussion in 'Other Christian Denominations' started by The Biblicist, Dec 17, 2011.
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And which of these can a baby knowingly do, whether it be good or bad? We are held accountable for the sins we commit. What sin(s) can a new born babe commit, and know it is a transgression of God's laws? -
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"BY one man's offence MANY BE DEAD"
"For IN Adam all die"
However, your interpretation of the origin of sin in infants makes these scriptures read thus:
"by MANY OFFENCES many were made sinners"
"by MANY OFFENCES many be dead" -
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However, that is not the only Bibical definition and that is not the only type of sin recognized and defined by Scriptures.
You restrict sin to one definition when the Bible does not! -
Where does the fleshly man come from?
Where does the soul come from? -
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There is also sin by omission and this is explicitly stated in Romans 3:23 where sin i s "coming short of the glory of God" or failing to do POSITIVELY what the law requires! There is sin by coming short of all that LOVE requires!!! Wrong INTENT of heart is sin! Everything done from wrong INTENT of heart is sin whether it is done knowingly and willfully or sincerely and ignorantly.
You are picking parts of the Bible to believe and rejecting other parts and that is precisely what you must continue to do in order to justify your doctrine. -
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Bottom line is Jesus said "There is NONE good BUT ONE and that IS GOD" and your doctrine denies what Christ said is the truth. You believe all infants are born good and therefore intrinsic goodness cannot be limited to merely "ONE" and that "IS GOD" -
12Wherefore, as by one man sin entered into the world, and death by sin; and so death passed upon all men, for that all have sinned:
19For as by one man's disobedience many were made sinners, so by the obedience of one shall many be made righteous.
The word sinner here is the greek word hamartōlos:
devoted to sin, a sinner
a) not free from sin
b) pre-eminently sinful, especially wicked
1) all wicked men
2) specifically of men stained with certain definite vices or crimes
a) tax collectors, heathen
This word is from the root word hamartanō:
to be without a share in
2) to miss the mark
3) to err, be mistaken
4) to miss or wander from the path of uprightness and honour, to do or go wrong
5) to wander from the law of God, violate God's law, sin
And since it means violate God's Law, it also can be rendered Adam's Transgression Rom 5:14
14Nevertheless death reigned from Adam to Moses, even over them that had not sinned after the similitude of Adam's transgression, who is the figure of him that was to come.
Transgression here is the word parabasis:
a going over
2) metaph. a disregarding, violating
So all who were in Adam, and God constituted him their head, when he sinned or transgressed, they did also, before they were born. Now when they were born they were born as infants, with their transgression already having been committed in Adam their head, this is according to scripture truth whether you, me or anyone else believes it or not ! -
Oooookaaaayyy! God gives the new born babe a sin cursed soul? That's scary!! :eek::eek::eek::eek: -
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