WRONG!! Spiritual death" is separation from God. That is why I quoted Christ on the cross "My God, Why hast Thou forsaken Me."
This is the locus of your error, James. "Spiritual death" is NOT non-existence (if it was, we would all be nihilists) -- it is separation from God. The SOUL exists forever. It is the soul's relationship to God that is the subject of its death.
skypair
The Doctrine of Original Sin
Discussion in 'Baptist Theology & Bible Study' started by ReformedBaptist, Jul 11, 2008.
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Rippon said:You need knock it off Sp., but quick. Do you hear me?Click to expand...
We'll just stick with "that is what H-C's believe and that is what the Bible says, OK?
And now if you will examine your conscience towards me, wouldn't you find that you have not responded rationally but instead, emotionally, to my posts? When was the last time you, in love, just focussed on the issues presented rather than the person, SP? I believe you would have to admit that you have not been dealing honestly with me either, right?
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skypair said:You're right, rip. I apologize for bringing your name in as H-C and for claiming to know the thoughts and intents of your heart.
We'll just stick with "that is what H-C's believe and that is what the Bible says, OK?
And now if you will examine your conscience towards me, wouldn't you find that you have not responded rationally but instead, emotionally, to my posts? When was the last time you, in love, just focussed on the issues presented rather than the person, SP? I believe you would have to admit that you have not been dealing honestly with me either, right?
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However, you have deliberately lied on multiple occasions -- not just about me and my beliefs,but to many others here like James,and Pastor Larry( who has the good sense not to interact with you any longer). You have said some of the most outrageous things about our beliefs, we have responded and cleared up what we thought might have been a misinformed youngster. But then you have kept up a steady stream of nuttiness. Some of your utterances have been blasphemous. Now you expect everything to be sweetness and light because you have acknowledged one small area where you would have it that you only made a bad judgment.
I have responded to you in the manner I have because of your disgraceful conduct from the git-go Sp. You don't appear to have a conscience though you mention it theologically quite frequently.Your posts are characterized by their foolishness -- deliberate foolishness. You haven't inadvertently made a bad step here and there. You have with quite deliberate intention made some of the most outlandish claims against your brethren -- regularly.
I have and will continue to deal with you as honestly as I have in the past.For you to say that I have not dealt honestly with you is itself another lie. -
skypair said:WRONG!! Spiritual death" is separation from God.Click to expand...
Please don't raise your voice. :)
Separation from God is but a very simple way to put it. I do not disagree with this. But this has nothing to do with Christ sinning. It has nothing to do with Christ taking our guilt
That is why I quoted Christ on the cross "My God, Why hast Thou forsaken Me."
The reason Christ said "My God, My God Why hast Thou forsaken Me?" is to drawn attention to the Old Testament so that they would know that this passage was talking about Him. If you would take the time and study Psalm 22 you would find this line...
"neither hath he hid his face from him; but when he cried unto him, he heard"Click to expand...
This is the locus of your error, James. "Spiritual death" is NOT non-existence (if it was, we would all be nihilists)Click to expand...
Get it?
-- it is separation from God.Click to expand...
The SOUL exists forever.Click to expand...
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Rippon said:Thank you for your apology. That's a first.
However, you have deliberately lied on multiple occasionsClick to expand...
But then you have kept up a steady stream of nuttiness. Some of your utterances have been blasphemous. Now you expect everything to be sweetness and light because you have acknowledged one small area where you would have it that you only made a bad judgment.Click to expand...
You have with quite deliberate intention made some of the most outlandish claims against your brethren -- regularly.Click to expand...
You heard this blonde joke, haven't you? The blonde cop stops a blonde driver for speeding. The cop says, "I need to see you license," to which the blonde driver says, "What does it look like?" The cop says, "It's square and has your picture on it."
So the blonde driver looks through her purse and fishes out her little mirror, looks at it and thinks, "Oh, here it is." She hands it to the cop who, looking at it says, "Why didn't you tell me you were a policeman? If I'd known that, I wouldn't have started writing this ticket!" :laugh:
I know -- you're blonde, don't appreciate my humor, and can't figure out why I am critical of you in the first place!
I have and will continue to deal with you as honestly as I have in the past. For you to say that I have not dealt honestly with you is itself another lie.Click to expand...
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James,
It appears we CAN stand on "holy ground" together.
Psa 22:1-2 -- "My God, my God, why hast thou forsaken me? why art thou so far from helping me, and from the words of my roaring? 2 O my God, I cry in the daytime, but thou hearest not; and in the night season, and am not silent." There was daytime and "night time"/darkness at the cross. Jesus was crying to God but God HAD forsaken Him.
"neither hath he hid his face from him; but when he cried unto him, he heard"Click to expand...
skypair
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