The eternal subordination of the Word.

The equality has to do with deity where there is never any subordination.

 

so when did Jesus cease to be Almighty God?

 

So are you claiming that the "man" is God? John 20:17, ". . . I ascend unto my Father, and your Father; and to my God, and your God. . . ."

 

and, God the Father addresses Jesus Christ, "προς δε τον υιον ο θρονος σου ο θεος εις τον αιωνα του αιωνος" Hebrews 1:8

"But unto the Son he says, Your throne, O God, is forever and ever"

 

Not as the man, but as the Person being the Son of God. God calling His Son God. And after His Son completes this task given to Him by God His Father, ". . . the Son also himself be subject unto him that put all things under him, that God may be all in all." -- 1 Corinthians 15:28. Continuing His role of eternal submission.

 

are you "Baptist" or really a JW?

 

this is about Jesus earthly Ministry and has nothing to do with His eternal Kingdom.

Revelation 11:15 is very clear about Jesus Kingdom and Rule:

"The kingdoms of the world have become our Lord's and his Christ’s and He shall Reign for ever and ever."

The Greek is very important here, the Greek verb, βασιλευσει, is in the singular number, which can either mean, Jesus shall Reign for ever and ever"; or, "Our Lord", which is "The Father", Reigns jointly with Jesus Christ. In any case, Jesus' Kingdom and Reign is Eternal, and co-equal with the Father!

 

It is the Baptist teaching that the Word was both "with the God" and "was God." Did my OP really sound like JW taaching to you?

 

your replies, like that in #65, keep on showing that you do not accept that Jesus Christ is FULLY God, in EXACTLY the SAME way and the Father and Holy Spirit?

 

In the New Heaven and Earth. 1 Corinthians 15:26-28 post the Jugement Revelation 20:13. So your interpation is wrong about 1 Corinthians 15:28. The full deity of the Son of God never ceases even as the Son in His subordination never ceases. The deity never has any subordination.

 

and WHAT do you think that Rev 11:15 is???

 

Revelation 11:15 is for Revelation 20:4-10. After the Judgement Revelation 20:11-15 we have this, Revelation 21:27, ". . . And there shall in no wise enter into it any thing that defileth, neither whatsoever worketh abomination, or maketh a lie: but they which are written in the Lamb's book of life. . . ."

 

They as the One God yes, never any subordination. As Persons there was always a subordination, which you seem not to be able understand.




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Revelation 11:15, ". . . The kingdoms of this world are become the kingdoms of our Lord, and of his Christ; and he shall reign for ever and ever. . . ." Here "the Lord" and "his Christ" are two different Persons.

 

The subject of post #65 was about God the Father calling His Son God. You are the one who brought up Hebrews 1:8.

 

I’ll disagree. Functional subordination does not mean inequality.

peace to you

 

do you know what the word "sunordination" means? Regardless of what it is called, like Functional, its core meaning never changes! This is all speculation, as no Scripture teaches it! I am done with this, as there are some who cannot grasp this.

 

To restate my understanding of the eternal subordination. The eternal subordination has to do with the Word's relationship as a Person with God. The Word being the one and the Same God there is never any subordination. The Word has always been both a distinct Person from God being "with the God" and "was God" being one and the same God, so being would be without any kind of subordination being God. The incarnation was a change, John 1:14, not as God but how the Word was "with the God." This is important in understanding the two natures of the Son of God and Him being one Person.

 

'Functional subordination' means, 'Jesus is The Son, by Office, within The Triune Godhead.