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Featured The facts shoot holes in Obama's claim that US is only host to mass killings

Discussion in 'News & Current Events' started by Revmitchell, Dec 3, 2015.

  1. Revmitchell

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    http://www.foxnews.com/opinion/2015...-only-host-to-mass-killings.html?intcmp=hpbt3
     
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    Of course , he's lying. What else is new?

    "In terms of the frequency of attacks, the United States ranks ninth, with 0.09 attacks per million people. Macedonia, Serbia, Switzerland, Norway, Slovakia, Finland, Belgium, and the Czech Republic all had higher rates."
     
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    What is it with FOX News and telling lies that y'all turn around and repeat? As I showed the last time you tried to push this SAME lie, the President's quote when he first said it was:

    Here’s the actual quote:

    So why would anyone think he was talking about anything different this time other than the ones of you who keep trying to push this lie?

    Shameful!!!
     
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    I believe frequency is a measure in accordance to TIME.

    .09 attacks per million people IS NOT a measure of frequency.

    So I don't believe this shows that the President's comment is untrue.
     
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    I believe it does. You are misinterpreting the stats,

    Either way, It's still a le. It does, in fact occur in other countries.
     
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    That's not the previous statement that he was referencing. He said "He says this everytime we have one of these shootings."

    And what he has said in the past is what was quoted, not what the Fox News piece is trying to make it look like he's said.

    They really are getting to be pretty disgusting.
     
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    Omitting text and the full quote which provides context is a pretty nasty journalism tactic.
     
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    Truncating his own quote from months ago can be laid at the feet of the speaker.

    "With respect to Planned Parenthood, obviously, my heart goes out to those families impacted. I mean, I say this every time we go one of these mass shootings, this just doesn't happen in other countries," President Obama said.

    Perhaps you should read a little more carefully.

    Your hero, the zero, was in such a big hurry to lie that he stated the big lie and left off the little lie from his statement from months ago.
     
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    Or it may be that when he said "I say this everytime", he was referencing what he originally said.

    I think the people who weren't looking for another "gotcha" moment. knew what he was referencing.

    I'm starting to think folks were right about Fox News being Faux News. They certainly haven't been fair and balanced in a long time.

    But I guess they are doing as a company what DT is doing as a Presidential candidate.
     
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    The quote is correct. He was speaking to the French. They thought he was an idiot and a liar and have no idea of his earlier statement.

    Either point out the error in their reporting or go grind that axe somewhere else. Try to stay on point. So far, you've tried to defend the wrong quote and attacked the source without refuting anything they reported.. Do you have anything at all to contribute to the subject actually posted?
     
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    I didn't say your quote was incorrect. I said he was clearly referencing his ORIGINAL quote when he was speaking after what happened in Charleston.

    I already pointed out the error in their reporting. It was a deliberate attempt to obfuscate, manipulate and mislead. And if what they PLAINLY did is okay with you, then you have as much of a character problem as they do.

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    You need to try to read a little bit better. I didn't try to defend the wrong quote. I made it clear that Fox News and you and mitchell are well aware of what the original full quote was. And ya'll are just trying to have a gotcha moment by deliberately leaving out the context of his comment.

    If he says, "I say this everytime" and you've heard him make that comment before, you know immediately what he's talking about. And as we corrected the same naysayers the last time this quote was misused, you're well aware of what he was referencing.
    None other than the fact that you will boldly lie and go along with manipulation to try to make that man look bad. You got issues.Thumbsup
     
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    Chart clearly shows that mass shooting don't happen with the same frequency in other countries as they do in the US. So what's the lie?
     
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    "With respect to Planned Parenthood, obviously, my heart goes out to those families impacted. I mean, I say this every time we go one of these mass shootings, this just doesn't happen in other countries," President Obama said.

    Your chart clearly shows he's a liar.
     
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    It doesn’t happen in other places with this type of frequency”,

    Statement is clearly backed up by the chart.
     
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    This is Obama's quote from your source of all places:

    And here is your sources determination of his claim:

     
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    Good grief not its not.
     
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    Try to catch up. Rolleyes
     
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    You do not understand the difference between per capita and frequency. I get it.
     
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