Since when? Give me a time, date, reason.
The article that I posted was written April 20, 2016, and the journalist looking into the Catholic's misdeeds of the past and present reported that it was still going on to this very day. Why should I not believe her well-written and documented research and simply, by blind faith, believe you?
I have no reason to believe your faithful propaganda. You are simply a cheerleader for the RCC.
To some, perhaps. It tries to put on a good face, or rather save face, in the public's eye. But it continues to do what it always has done behind closed doors. You just don't read it as much. It is hard to teach an old dog new tricks.
I expose the truth. You call it hatred.
The truth of the matter is that you have a hatred of the real truth being presented here.
You have avoided the spiritual questions asked of you time and time again because you reject the truth. For example: Are you born again? How? When?
What does it mean to be born again?
When it comes to those questions there is complete silence.
I am not bearing false witness. I bear witness to the truth. You are a cheerleader to that which you cannot verify. You don't know what goes on behind closed doors. What access do you have into the bedrooms of the homes of all the Catholic priests?:Sick:Speechless:Rolleyes:eek:
The Final Authority of Scripture
Discussion in 'Other Christian Denominations' started by The Biblicist, Jul 11, 2016.
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You are correct, I do not have access to the bedrooms and homes of any Catholic clergy - and neither do you. I can only relate to you what the Catholic Church is doing regarding this issue and it is clear you are going to believe what you want to believe and I cannot change that.
I will repeat however, that you are indeed bearing false witness if you continue spreading those lies after you have been informed of the truth. One day you, like everyone else, will stand before the Judgement seat of God and will have to answer for the sins you commit in this life. I will pray for you. -
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One does not get to heaven by good works such as baptism or any kind of religious works.
Note carefully Jesus words here:
Matthew 7:22 Many will say to me in that day, Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied in thy name? and in thy name have cast out devils? and in thy name done many wonderful works?
23 And then will I profess unto them, I never knew you: depart from me, ye that work iniquity.
--It doesn't matter how many or what quality the works one does.
What mattered to Jesus is whether or not He knew them, and they knew Him. Knowing Jesus comes through the "new birth," being born again. That is the most important issue a person can face. Have you been born again?
Tell me. If you were doing research on your genealogy, and found out that your great, great, great, great, great grandfather, who lived in the 18th century murdered someone but got away with it. And suppose you were able to find someone that was a descendant of the one that was murdered, would your apology "on behalf of your distant relative" mean anything to the person you found? Could you go to the courts, tell the police that you want to spend the rest of your life in prison--a life sentence (the very least for a murder) because your distant relative paid nothing. You are apologizing on "his behalf," so are you willing to pay the price on his behalf, do the repentance on his behalf, etc.
The so-called forgiveness of the Pope is meaningless. There is no justice carried out. To say "I am sorry you were mistreated without any justice is meaningless.
OTOH, I have documented for you what goes on in our churches.
I have documented what continues to happen in the RCC.
You reject both. You are in denial.
Let me repeat again. Unless you have a relationship with Christ, that is, are born again, God does not hear a person's prayers. I appreciate the thought though. -
33 million Baptists, probably good portion wouldn't even call themselves Baptists.
Anyone can call themselves Baptist. Look at Westboro Baptist. IBC churches....
I could start a Baptist church right now and there is nothing you can do to argue I was not otherwise.
http://stopbaptistpredators.org/index.htm
The Anabaptist came on the scene with Luther thats 1500s.
Name one Baptist who lived in 1000AD.
All you got to do is name ONE PERSON.
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Your such a kidder DHK. lol.
Let me play your game.
Muslims have much in common with Independent Baptist.
1. Both believe in Sola Scriptura.
2. Both have contract salvation "all you have to do is accept their Lord"
3. Both use Fear or Terror to convert others
4. Both can't stand any religion that isn't theirs.
5. Both got no hierarchy just IMAMS where the center of authority lies with the pastor of the congregation.
6. Both came after the Catholics.
There are probably some other similarities that I have missed. In fact it seems you have more in common with the Muslims than with Christianity. But that is OK, because I have never considered Baptist to blow themselves up over religion.:D -
Islam has five "pillars of the faith" that they must keep. If they are not kept one cannot enter into paradise. The only guarantee of paradise is martyrdom, quite contrary to "accepting Christ as Savior" (John 1:12).
True Biblical Christianity operates out of love.
What are the two greatest commands? I trust you know what they are.
Islam started in the seventh century.
The RCC originated with Constantine in the fourth century.
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1 Corinthians 11
2I praise you for remembering me in everything and for holding to the traditions just as I passed them on to you.
The Jew, Jesus, the Apostles, nor the hearers of our Lord practiced Sola Scriptura. There is no "holding on to tradition" if you only needed sola scriptura.
Tradition.
One of the traditions Pharisees clergy would override Honor your Father and Mother by taking the money and counting it up to God rather then the parents.
Jesus Christ was very critical of traditions the Pharisees had. But rather then say well hold on what about our Rules and Law being Sola scriptura. He would complain about what was wrong with the tradition. He does this more then once.
If the RULE was no Driving, and someone drove a car to run over someone's beautiful lawn, Jesus Christ would complain about the guy driving over the Lawn rather then mention no driving. -
Sola Scriptura is definitely talked about in the bible.
Its right here:
2 Peter 3
16as also in all his letters, speaking in them of these things, in which are some things hard to understand, which the untaught and unstable distort, as they do also the rest of the Scriptures, to their own destruction.
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The Anabaptists went under a variety of different names but Rome called them by one common trait and that is their refusal to accept infant baptism as baptism and so they baptized Catholics who were converted, because they were not baptized at all in their eyes, but in the eyes of Rome they called them "Anabaptists" or "rebaptizers." They were also called "Catabaptists" and "Sabians."
However, since Rome controlled the writing of church history from fourth century to the fifthteen century and heavily influence it to nineteenth century these Anabaptists were scandalized by Rome in order to bring them under the legal arm of the state. Hence, they are accused of all kind of bizzare things.
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The Church doesn't equate to only clergy and none of which is above church teaching. If you can point to the part of the catechism that says Hey lets help child molesters, molest children then you got a case.
Corruption in high places isn't new, an apostle even betrayed Christ + he picked him.
In fact if everything is going peachy take a good look at the bible they not talking about you.
Matthew 10
24“A disciple is not above his teacher, nor a slave above his master. 25“It is enough for the disciple that he become like his teacher, and the slave like his master. If they have called the head of the house Beelzebul, how much more will they malign the members of his household!
Catholic church, You even said it yourself. Your the best proof we are it. We get called diabolic all the time. No body calls Baptist devil's church.
And then Even the overt Devil worshippers. Who the devil worshippers attacking? Baptist Church? Nope. They need a Eucharist to perform a black mass. They need the real deal not crackers and juice. -
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Three quick questions:
1. Do you believe the Bible to be the inspired Word of God?
2. Do you believe the Bible is one and the same in authority as if God actually orally spoke to you?
3. Do you believe His Word should be final in authority or do you believe someone or something is more authoritative than God and His Word? -
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I have met some of these supposedly "Born Agains", where they run around saying "I saved, I'm saved" and then in a while it all fizzles out. Then what? My spiritual relationship during my whole life has been much more complex. That's just me and something you should respect as a fellow Christian. But no, a Mr. Know - It - All like you says EVERYONE has to do it your way, to feel the same way as you do, and that is not the reality of things regarding each individuals walk with Christ.
The fact is , you have no respect for anyone else's faith traditions and a proper discussion can only be had on the basis of mutual respect and you cannot even admit that we are Christians. You are not a Mr. Know - It- All on the subject of the Christian faith and what is the truth of it all.
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