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The Jehovah’s Witnesses and The Holy Spirit

Discussion in 'Baptist Theology & Bible Study' started by SavedByGrace, Sep 15, 2020.

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    Because, sadly like many millions, they have been blinded by the "god of this world". :Cry
     
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    This is NOT taught anywhere in the entire Bible! See my response in #99
     
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    by the way, are you a Jehovah's Witness, or belong to some other sect? You say "Baptist", and yet you argue like a JW!
     
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    To whom do the angels belong? Revelation 12:7.
     
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    Neither are the words quote "Jesus is God" unquote.
     
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    2 questions for you on this. 1. do you personally believe that Jesus Christ is God, and that He is uncreated? 2. If not, then can you give just one verse from the entire Bible, that shows Jesus Christ is a created being? Straight answers please.
     
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    Jesus claimed to be the Good Shepherd, Alpha and Omega, and the Judge and Creator, all claims to being God!
     
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    archangel was a created being, Jesus was not!
     
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    Michael is the head angel, but was not God!
     
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    So an argument from silence is your proof that the Archangel Michael (Who is like God) is not and cannot be the Angel of the LORD, Revelation 12:7.
     
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    And your proof Who is like God was created?
     
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    Michael dared not rebuke satan, but relied upon his boss jesus for that!
     
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    how comes you cannot respond to the 2 questions in #106? is it because you cannot? And, what about #103? are you hiding something?
     
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    According to Peter, 2 Peter 2:11, ". . . Whereas angels, which are greater in power and might, bring not railing accusation against them before the Lord. . . ." Why the Angel of the LORD Himself did the same as wwhat was said of Who was like God, Jude 1:9, in Zechariah 3:2!
     
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    Noted, I have not read them yet.
     
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    You are really that blind? The Son of God has aways been both with God and was God, being the Word. John 1:1-2. If you had read and understood what I have post in this thread. Our Lord Jesus Christ is not part man part God. But fully now both man and God, not a mixture.
     
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    And on his thinking of these things, lo, a messenger of the Lord in a dream appeared to him, saying, 'Joseph, son of David, thou mayest not fear to receive Mary thy wife, for that which in her begotten out of Spirit is Holy, and she shall bring forth a son, and thou shalt call his name Jesus, for he shall save his people from their sins.' Matt 1:20
    ταῦτα δὲ αὐτοῦ ἐνθυμηθέντος ἰδού, ἄγγελος κυρίου κατ᾽ ὄναρ ἐφάνη αὐτῷ λέγων, Ἰωσὴφ υἱὸς Δαβίδ, μὴ φοβηθῇς παραλαβεῖν αριὰμ τὴν γυναῖκά σου· τὸ γὰρ ἐν αὐτῇ γεννηθὲν ἐκ πνεύματός ἐστιν ἁγίου Mτέξεται δὲ υἱὸν καὶ καλέσεις τὸ ὄνομα αὐτοῦ Ἰησοῦν· αὐτὸς γὰρ σώσει τὸν λαὸν αὐτοῦ ἀπὸ τῶν ἁμαρτιῶν αὐτῶν Matt 1:20,21 TR
    'Lo, the virgin shall conceive, and she shall bring forth a son, and they shall call his name Emmanuel,' which is, being interpreted 'With us The God.' Matt 1:23
    Ἰδού, ἡ παρθένος ἐν γαστρὶ ἕξει καὶ τέξεται υἱόν, καὶ καλέσουσιν τὸ ὄνομα αὐτοῦ Ἐμμανουήλ, ὅ ἐστιν μεθερμηνευόμενον, Μεθ᾽ ἡμῶν ὁ θεός

    Ex 3:14 CSB God replied to Moses, “I AM WHO I AM.[fn] This is what you are to say to the Israelites: I AM has sent me to you.”
    Or I AM BECAUSE I AM, or I WILL BE WHO I WILL BE
    NASB has this note relative to I AM - Related to the name of God, YHWH, rendered LORD, which is derived from the verb HAYAH, to be

    I ask is Ex 3:14 not only a statement but also a prophecy? Jesus said unto them, Verily, verily, I say unto you, Before Abraham was, I am. < vi Pres vxx 1 Sg
    Relative to God the Father and the Son of God who was speaking with Moses? How do you understand, "The LORD said unto my Lord"? Is this the Father speaking to the Son? Is Jesus also the seed of David?

    What is the meaning of, Thou art my Son this day have I begotten thee?



     
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    This is Prophecy of the First Coming of the Lord Jesus Christ, His Incarnation
     
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    You seem to be mistaken here. Psalms 2:7 is a prphecy not of Christ's birth and incarnation but of Christ's post incaration resurrection per the word of God itself, Acts of the Apostles 13:33, ". . . he hath raised up Jesus again; as it is also written in the second psalm, Thou art my Son, this day have I begotten thee. . . ." And in that prophecy, it should be noted, He is already the Son prior to being "begotten." It first says, "Thou art my Son."
     
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    You do not read carefully what I post do you?
    Jesus Christ is both the man and God. As the man not God, John 20:17, ". . . I ascend unto my Father, and your Father; and to my God, and your God." And as that man who is also God omnipresent, John 3:13, ". . . no man hath ascended up to heaven, but he that came down from heaven, even the Son of man which is in heaven. . . ." Jesus as a man said this while He was on earth.
     
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