The mark of the beast will be literal...

So Jesus was guessing when he said He is the Temple of God? Or when he said John the Baptist was Elijah?

 

Where does Jesus say "Microchips"?

 

Is that written somewhere, or is that just your guesswork?

 

Still being deliberately dense.

 

When He said 'mark'.

 

Fact. See any 1st century mention of MCs or copters ?

 

Charles Manson added to scripture in just the same way.

 

Insults tell me you are exhausted and running short.

 

So, not really locusts, and not really marks.

Yeah, there's no appeal to symbolism there. :rolleyes:

 

Not a bit. YOU'RE the one posting stupidity & juvenile stuff.

You know full well why Jesus didn't say 'microchip', etc. it's not because it's not true, but because His chosen writers & audience wouldn'ta known what they now are, same as His disciples wouldn't know what meteors are unless He woulda made a long explanation to them. But His purpose was to answer theur questions, so He used a term they knew-falling star.

But in your zeal to try to defend your hooey, you're acting as if I or the readers not in this disussion don't know why Jesus used 'mark' for what'll almost-certainly be some sorta electronic miniatire device implanted under the skin which will contain all of one's financial records & be able to conduct transactions. Like it or not, this'll be a LITERAL device.

(I won't be around to see it; I'll either be raptured or dead. But maybe some unsaved person reading this may be alive then & heed the warning not to take that 'mark'.)

 

So? Who believed him?

 

John described what he saw as best he could with his 1st C. understanding.

 

You keep saying that. You have to realize you are just imagining what he saw if you are rejecting literal locusts and marks as is written.

 

No, You are plain wrong on this one Dave. It means to make known. Has nothing to do with symbols and object lessons.

 

But could it not be an actual mark and actual locusts? Will you allow for that possibility?

 

You need more study. What I say is true but unknown to you. If you are really "Reformed" you should know this by now.

 

I find it amazing that you and your microchips are no different from him calling the scorpions the Beatles.

 

Insults are a substitute for thinking on the part of those who hurl them.

 

I'm biblical.

 

You are ignorant of the passages that prove my position.