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The Mystery of the Gospel of Jesus Christ

Discussion in 'Baptist Theology & Bible Study' started by Darrell C, Feb 3, 2018.

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  1. Darrell C

    Darrell C Well-Known Member
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    What folks do you refer to?

    Do you not know that the Gospel of Christ is revealed by the Spirit?


    1 Corinthians 2:9-11
    King James Version (KJV)

    9 But as it is written, Eye hath not seen, nor ear heard, neither have entered into the heart of man, the things which God hath prepared for them that love him.

    10 But God hath revealed them unto us by his Spirit: for the Spirit searcheth all things, yea, the deep things of God.

    11 For what man knoweth the things of a man, save the spirit of man which is in him? even so the things of God knoweth no man, but the Spirit of God.




    1 Peter 1:9-12
    King James Version (KJV)

    9 Receiving the end of your faith, even the salvation of your souls.

    10 Of which salvation the prophets have enquired and searched diligently, who prophesied of the grace that should come unto you:

    11 Searching what, or what manner of time the Spirit of Christ which was in them did signify, when it testified beforehand the sufferings of Christ, and the glory that should follow.

    12 Unto whom it was revealed, that not unto themselves, but unto us they did minister the things, which are now reported unto you by them that have preached the gospel unto you with the Holy Ghost sent down from heaven; which things the angels desire to look into.



    So don't know what "folks" you refer to, who you insinuate as ignorant, but, the question I ask again is do you know that the Gospel of Christ is revealed to men by the Holy Spirit? And that the Spirit ministers in the capacity of Comforter, which is distinct to this Age?


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    My hope is one day you will understand this.

    Until then, you are denying a basic truth which holds great importance to a sound Theology.


    That was a mystery, to be sure, but that is not the sum total of the Mystery of the Gospel of Christ.


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    That is a mystery, not The Mystery.


    We don't "think" of mysteries, they are either presented in Scripture as mysteries or they aren't.

    And this is not a mystery, it is simply an aspect of The Mystery. And you are not very clear in the statement, it could be taken to mean that Christ offered up His blood (His death) in the earthly Tabernacle, rather than the Holiest of All as taught by the Writer of Hebrews, which was Heaven itself.


    Which points to the change of the ministry of God towards God. This Age is made distinct from all others.


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    Doesn't matter, lol, because no man understood that until Pentecost.


    Well, which one? Or both?

    We can't say both, because when there was a Tabernacle there was no clear Prophecy of Messiah, but rather parable.


    That is correct, but it did not make men understand that God manifested in human flesh, His name was Jesus Christ, and that all men must believe on Him or perish.

    Because the Mystery of the Gospel of Jesus Christ was not revealed to men then.


    The "torn veil" that is relevant to the Gospel of Christ is the body of Jesus Christ, which opened the way into the Holiest of All, Heaven:


    The earthly veil being torn signifies that it is obsolete, and no longer bestows access to God.


    Hebrews 10:19-20
    King James Version (KJV)

    19 Having therefore, brethren, boldness to enter into the holiest by the blood of Jesus,

    20 By a new and living way, which he hath consecrated for us, through the veil, that is to say, his flesh;



    While said to be "after the order of Melchisedec," Christ is not to be equated to a mere man. Melchisedec simply presents a picture of a man who's not a Priest according to the Law, who has no known genealogy.


    Sorry, no.


    No, Agedman, the blood of substitution was not presented as the Promised Messiah, it was merely a figure.

    What you are doing here is equating the shadow with the reality, and that is heresy.


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    That is about the one of the saddest statements I have ever witnessed.


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    Regenerational Enlightenment is indeed a false doctrine, but, we are, until we are redeemed from fallen flesh, still susceptible to sin.


    The only two natures we have are the human nature, which is natural, and the nature of God when we are immersed into God. We are still human, and retain our human nature, but, we are new creatures and not...only human.


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    What is this relevant to?


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    That's strange because I "thought" it was.


    Sorry you are so sad. Buy a puppy. :)
     
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    There are more mysteries. They are not yet revealed.
     
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    Right, you "thought of it."

    Show me in the text where it is said to be a mystery and I will apologize.


    You misunderstand: I said it was sad, I didn't say I was sad, lol.


    Not sure I would call the works of Christ a mystery, particularly since John claims to have a knowledge of them.

    ;)


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    Well, I can't - it's a mystery.
    Was that a criteria, that the text must say it is a mystery or that it was previously not revealed?




    Oh OK my bad.




    This is true BUT, we don't.
     
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    Nope according to Calvinists that nature was changed by God so that man could be saved.
     
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    The denial of scripture is the hallmark of false doctrine.
    We were made sinners. To deny it is to deny scripture.
    Those God transfers into Christ are made righteous in a practicable sense.
    By the numbers:
    1) The gospel of Christ was mentioned in the Old Testament, but not presented clearly, thus the gospel of Christ had been a mystery within the Old Testament.
    2) But in the New Testament, the Gospel of Christ was presented clearly, and is no longer a mystery to those who accept what scripture says rather than rewrite it according to some man-made doctrine.
    3) Part of the Gospel is we were chosen for salvation through faith in the truth. (John 3:16)
    4) Part of the Gospel is we were made righteous through the blood of Christ
    5) Part of the Gospel is Christ died for all mankind, a truth partially revealed in the Old Testament.
     
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    You just proved my point
     
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    I view the mysteries Paul teaches as identified as such, yes.

    lol...true.


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    Not sure you could actually say you had a point. You were wrong in pretty much everything you said.


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    Not only was I completely right but you are completely unorthodox bordering on heresy.
     
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    Could you point out one thing you were right about?


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    And could you point out what is unorthodox, bordering on heresy? Be glad to show why Scripture teaches what I have already said...again.


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    You and I agree.

    The gospel was not hidden.

    What was hidden and specified in the Scriptures as hidden was the gentile inclusion. That is, that there is this item called the church.

    Never mentioned, not prophecied, and yet revealed by the Christ first to the apostles, as in the statement, "I will build my church." Even then it took a special revelation from God to bring Peter to actually endorse gentile believers, and James to let Jews know the gentles were not subject to Israeli ritual and sociatal law demands.

    Had the gospel been hidden, there would have been no salvation of OT folks, yet there certainly was, for the mount of transfiguration displays two of the ancients with the Christ.
     
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