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Featured The New and True Exodus....In Jesus....Central Gospel Truth

Discussion in 'Baptist Theology & Bible Study' started by Iconoclast, Dec 20, 2017.

  1. HankD

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    After the millennial reign of Christ the entirety of material creation will make a transforming exodus to New Jerusalem.
    ALL of humanity are invited to this the final Exodus

    Revelation 22:17 And the Spirit and the bride say, Come. And let him that heareth say, Come. And let him that is athirst come. And whosoever will, let him take the water of life freely.

    Come!

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    Aged man,
    Thanks for taking the time to reply. My question is not concerning what replacement theology is, but why the fact that there is a Biblical theme re:the Exodus that permeates Scripture is now rejected as if it were replacement theology. I do not hold replacement theology, yet I recognize that the Bible is chock full of themes, and the Exodus motif is among them.
    Still searching for understanding.
    Jason
     
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    Jason,
    Jesus is the True Israel....and believers by virtue of saving Union with Him are the Eternal or Christian Israel....all believers from all time In Him on the last day...isa49:1-8
     
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    Icon,
    Agreed, but that does not de facto rule out God's turning many in carnal Israel to Himself as we near the time of the end.
    Lest we go off topic into eschatological debates, my contention is that it is a non sequitur to say that replacement theology is equal to seeing the thematic unity of the Bible. That is the thing that troubles me about the claim.
     
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    Presently, that is today, can whosoever will, take of the water of life freely or only those whom the Lord is calling?

    Consider: John 7:37 - 39 In the last day, that great day of the feast, Jesus stood and cried, saying, If any man thirst, let him come unto me, and drink. He that believeth on me, as the scripture hath said, out of his belly shall flow rivers of living water. (But this spake he of the Spirit, which they that believe on him should receive: for the Holy Ghost was not yet given; because that Jesus was not yet glorified.)

    Could they have drink of that water on that day Jesus said that?

    What about after Jesus was glorified? What about the group that was with Paul on the road to Damascus? Were all of them being called, could all of them have drink? When did Paul drink of the water?

    Was Jesus speaking prophetically in that passage of, the last day, that great of the feast, being the period of Rev 22? After the thousand years?

    Is John 7:37-39 prophetic of a dispensation?

    Is that spoken of in Rev 22 the same as Eph 1:9,10 esp 10

    Having made known unto us the mystery of his will, according to his good pleasure which he hath purposed in himself: By giving us the water of life, the Holy Spirit
    That in the dispensation of the fulness of times he might gather together in one all things in Christ, both which are in heaven, and which are on earth; even in him:
    Does the fulness of times begin in Rev 22?
     
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    It is a present tense tense invitation.

    Revelation 22:17 And the Spirit and the bride say, Come. And let him that heareth say, Come. And let him that is athirst come. And whosoever will, let him take the water of life freely.

    Why complicate it with the theology of dead men?

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    Hank,
    This is true no matter which eschatological calendar a person uses:Thumbsup
     
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    Yes...most think that there will be physical Israelites saved near the end of time.
     
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    Aint it great!

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    Romans 8:37
    Nay, in all these things we are more than conquerors through him that loved us.
     
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    Agree. If I were to press the 'replacement motif' found throughout the scriptures I would begin with all the firstborn/secondborn types where the first is literally replaced by the second.

    Replacement motif

    And....

    43 Therefore say I unto you, The kingdom of God shall be taken away from you, and shall be given to a nation bringing forth the fruits thereof. Mt 21

    ...if that's not being 'replaced' I don't know the meaning of the word.
     
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