The planned collapse of America

Do you speak Italian? French? Portugese? How do you know that the translations you read are correct?

I am aware that the US supported Iraq in some ways during the Iran/Iraq war. Do you think that may have been because the Iranians took our embassy people hostage in 1979??

The US has not sold any military aircraft to Iran since 1979. That would be before the Iran/Iraq war began. Comprende?

Well, you are certainly welcome to believe that if you want to. Could do without your idea that anyone who disagrees with you is idiotic though.

 

They were similar names. As the article points out, it was mistaken identity since those Saudis who took military training in the US are still alive, and did not crash into the WTC.

 

Does anyone have any real proof that the 19 terrorists identified by the U.S. government actually were involved at all? Oh, there was the pristine passport of one of them that was found on the streets of NYC which survived the plane hitting the WTC and burning so intensely that the building came down. Then there were the airplane loading video's which didn't have the required date and time on them. Who has proof that we didn't just "round up the usual suspects" as in Casablanca? It is correct that five of those accused have been found to be alive and well in the MidEast.

 

Our support consisted mainly in providing satellite images, and Saddam got less than 1% of his military imports from the US.


As for his chemical suppliers, look at the graphic below.

 

The Hijackers buy their tickets, Page 70 - 75 - LINK

The Hijackers check in - Page 7, Pg 18, Pg 27, Pg 35 - LINK

Saudi officials admit that 15 of the hijackers were Saudi citizens - LINK

 

Because they are in ENGLISH which I both speak and comprehend.comprende?

In some ways? I'm talking BEFORE the war,comprende?

I feel much better now,,,,,,NOT

[/QUOTE]That is up to you . I choose not to.

 

I guess the Bin Laden videos claiming responsibility are NeoCon forgeries.

Need proof the drug war is failing? Read the posts on here

 

No wonder we can't get Bin laden...the NeoCons have too many imposters out there making fake videos and putting them on Al Jezeera :laugh: Where's Waldo is a piece of cake :laugh:

 

Very good. If we read a translation from Italian, French, or whatever, it’s because someone has translated it into English for us. Same with Arabic. But according to you, we should not trust the translation that was originally Arabic. I don't see the logic.

You are correct. Before the revolution in Iran, and before they took our embassy personnel hostage, we did sell them military aircraft. Afterwards we did not. And so according to you, this is an indictment of the US, a sign of bad behavior. Just how escapes me, but if you’re happy.

 

The one percent refers to all military hardware sold to Iraq by the US, not 1 percent of his chemicals. He was able to legally buy dual use chemicals all over the world, as you can see.

Saddam managed to come to power in Iraq without any help at all from the US. He participated in the 1958 overthrowing of King Faisal, the 1959 attempt to assassinate Gen. Qassim, the 1963 Baathist revolution. And so on until he gained control. We had nothing to do with it.

Yes, well when you find that perfect nation, that heaven on earth that has never practiced any deceit and is pure as driven snow, let us all know. Maybe Iran, Venezuela, Senegal or the like would suit your purpose.

 

Yeah Tom, bone up on Lew Rockwell, Alex Jones, Paul Craig Roberts and the rest. They'll have you up to speed in a no time, in 5 easy lessons. You too can warn us of the nuclear bombs Bush is going to explode off the east coast, or the concentration camps he's about to throw us all into, or how he personally directed planes be flown into the WTC. It'll be a great hobby. Impress your friends!

 

IIRC, Rockwell isn't conspiratorial in the least. IIRC.

 

Maybe not, but writers that he features are. The Bush-wants-to-control-the-oilfields-and-it's-for-Israel bunch.

 

It's debatable that we want Iraq's oil? Greenspan doesn't think so. Neither does National Review (I trust you're familiar with the most widely circulated conservative publication in the States) in their response to Greenspan entitled, "What's Your Problem?"

ETA: the link has evidently expired but you can purchase the September '07 issue if you really want the cite, NiteShift. FWIW, very revealing (and rare) admission from the some of the nation's leading neoconservative ideologues.