Featured Theories of the Atonement

I understand that this is your belief. But when discussing your opinions with those if other views it does no good to keep on spouting them (saying something over and over again does not make it true).

The point of discussing opposing views is to explain how you get from Scripture to your position.

You have historically failed miserably on this front. You provide Bible verses and then say something those verses do not, as if it were there in invisible ink for your eyes only. Or you make wild claims that Jesus and Paul shared your view (but unfortunately did not think to write it down).

Scripture says Jesus died for us. Why do you think this means "instead of us"?

Scripture says the chastening for OUR well-being being fell upon Him. Why do you think this means God was punishing Jesus?

Scripture says by His stripes we are healed. Why do you think those stripes was the wrath of God?

 

Saying "it is quite clear" (to you) does not make it Scripture or clear to others. Your "clear understanding" has been rejected by most Christians (historically), so perhaps there is a reason you cannot quite grasp exactly how you get from Scripture to your view (you do not grasp that you are reading your presuppositions into the text)

 

I never made that you were the only ones that held it.

In fact, I said (twice) that while your view is a minority historically and within Christianity as a whole, it is the main Protestant view (Baptists with varying degrees, , Methodists, and Presbyterians).

I am saying NO MATTER HOW POPULAR a view may be those holding the view should be able to explain exactly how they get from Scripture to their view.

I have done this SEVERAL times.

You just repeat your view.

 

The Father loves the Son and has given all things into his hand. The one who believes in the Son has eternal life, but the one who disobeys the Son will not see life—but the wrath of God remains on him.

 

It is not what people have or don't have problems with. It is what Scripture says and does not say. We both know Scripture does not say God punished Jesus, Jesus experienced divine wrath, or Jesus suffered and died instead of us.