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Discussion in 'General Baptist Discussions' started by Yeshua1, Jun 19, 2020.

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    1689Dave Well-Known Member

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    The Creeds are statements on what the scriptures say. You have roots in the early church with them. And are just another voice from who knows where without them. The LBC and all serious creeds are precise versions of them.
     
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    But just another rogue to anyone who listens to you.
     
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    Matthew 7:13-14

    13) "Enter ye in at the strait gate: for wide is the gate, and broad is the way, that leadeth to destruction, and many there be which go in thereat:
    14) Because strait is the gate, and narrow is the way, which leadeth unto life, and few there be that find it.

    The few have always been considered rogue by the many.
     
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    But you have no roots in the historic Christian faith. At best you can claim the 1600s Baptists in England.
     
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    My root is in Christ Jesus through the infallibility of the scriptures and the Holy Ghost. You choose to have your root in that "church" that proved itself to be fallible and murderously corrupt. The scriptures and the Holy Ghost are life.
     
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    So you are saying you have nothing in common with any Christian in the first century?
     
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    You really do lack discernment. You attempt to hide an accusation in a question. I have nothing in the persecutory Roman Catholic Church. The Philadelphia church IS and always has been the model church.
     
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    Here's how it works. Any accepted book on the cults defines them as groups that do not embrace the Ecumenical creeds. So you can quote scripture all you want, they all do. But until you affirm that you agree with historic Christianity as defined in the Ecumenical Creeds I have no way of knowing your position but must assume the worst.
     
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    All cults say the same. These are all buzz words with a vast array of definitions.
     
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    It is not your burden to know my position.
     
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    It is not your burden to know my position. Assume whatever you desire to assume.
     
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    Yes, could see that, also, just wondering if the Charismatic chaos might be playing into end times, as that "experience" bleeds over across it seems today all church lines!
    Antichrist claims to be God, is that not what many teachers of WoF are saying?
     
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    I like to use the 1689 LBCF, but are not the scriptures alone sufficient?
     
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    Thought we Baptists were Sola Scriptura?
     
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    Up to a point. The church went to great lengths debating heretics in some hard to understand matters. And after years of testing, their conclusions remain irrefutable. I don't think any cursory bible reader could refine the trinity doctrine in the way it stands today. If you study the doctrine, I think you will agree.
     
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    I assume you have never studied in depth without a working knowledge of the creeds.
     
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    It's my burden to present truth before kicking dust and moving on.
     
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    So those who hold to scriptures alone are sufficient are rogues?
     
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    The problem is that you tend to give your opinions as Apostolic teaching!
     
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    So the scriptures are not sufficient in and by themselves? paul was confused?
     
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