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Sage advice from a Liberal to the GOP. Fox hurt Romney badly, IMHO.
Fox News understands its audience. Viewers tend to be older, white, male and, crucially, affluent. But this audience is no longer politically dominant. The GOP must look beyond Fox to remain relevant.
If election night told us anything, it told us that attempting to win a national election by focusing your energy on an older, white and mostly male voter base was a loser's gamble. The coalition President Obama put together of younger women, African Americans, Hispanics and Asians is the coalition of the American future. The Fox/GOP base is the coalition of the American past – its votes are important, but no longer to the exclusion of everyone else's.
This isn't a Fox News problem. In fact, Fox should not do anything right now to broaden its base. Older white men will always be a sizable portion of our population, and they'll continue to have money to spend on the products they see advertised on Fox. That means huge revenues for Roger Ailes, the Murdochs and the whole Fox network.
http://www.usatoday.com/story/opinion/2012/11/20/republican-party-fox-news-media/1702827/ Click to expand...
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Money just isn't what it used to be.
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Lets take a look at some exit polls
Several show a vote difference of 45 vs 55, some 40- vs 60
But there were only 2 or 3 where one candidate received 90% of that group.
Very interesting
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Lets take a look at some exit polls
Several show a vote difference of 45 vs 55, some 40- vs 60
But there were only 2 or 3 where one candidate received 90% of that group.
Very interesting
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Nice attempt to derail Salty, but your comment is totally off the OP topic. It only shows they totally failed to reach minorities.
Anyway, just shows what a waste of money those old white men indulged in. Think of how much good they could have done with all that money building hospitals, helping educational institutions. The money is gone, wasted on TV ads and other campaign items.
The GOP best change and try to attract other voters and Fox is certainly not going to help them in that regard ... unless Fox changes its political philosophy.
But Fox won't as they are making their money primarily from white folk. As said in the OP, Fox does not need to change, they are making money. The GOP needs to change or keep coming out on the short end of the elections.
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and your comment on the group of which 90% voted for Romney?
Its interesting you automatically mention minorities - especially when
Old White men themselves are a minority
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Old white men are a minority, a shrinking minority and the GOP to reach out to others. As you seem incapable of staying on the topic of the GOP and Fox news I won't derail this one more, but will start a new thread on your topic.
Do you think the GOP should divorce Fox News?
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Liberals are reading more into Obama's win than is reasonable. Wishful thinking or just trying to create a narrative. Either way CTB is just fulfilling his orders to propagate the DNC talking points. their new strategy is to stay in campaign mode. CTB is doing a good job of that in spite of facts.
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Rev. we need a viable GOP. If they, the GOP, learn no more than you have they are lost
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Says your DNC talking points. I will stick with reality rather than a false socialist agenda.
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How much money was spent on the Obama campaign? And if you think Obama is any more than a house boy for rich white globalists, think again.
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Old white men are a minority, a shrinking minority and the GOP to reach out to others. As you seem incapable of staying on the topic of the GOP and Fox news I won't derail this one more, but will start a new thread on your topic.
Do you think the GOP should divorce Fox News?
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I think MSNBC should divorce the democrat party.
They, the democrat party that is, are further left than that communist mouthpiece, MSNBC!
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I think MSNBC should divorce the democrat party. They, the democrat party that is, are further left than that communist mouthpiece, MSNBC!
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Speaking of MSNBC, I found a picture of your childhood hero.
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I think MSNBC should divorce the democrat party.
They, the democrat party that is, are further left than that communist mouthpiece, MSNBC!
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As usually totally off topic.
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Hmm, Aaron ... off topic. The topic is about the GOP and Fox.
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You are the one that brought up campaign spending, so his post is just as on topic as yours is.
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When he does not have an argument he redirects with the old "your off topic" routine.
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Rev. do you think the GOP should try to reach beyond the Fox News audience?
If your answer is "yes" ... they how are they to do this?
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Nice attempt to derail Salty, but your comment is totally off the OP topic. It only shows they totally failed to reach minorities.
Anyway, just shows what a waste of money those old white men indulged in. Think of how much good they could have done with all that money building hospitals, helping educational institutions. The money is gone, wasted on TV ads and other campaign items.
The GOP best change and try to attract other voters and Fox is certainly not going to help them in that regard ... unless Fox changes its political philosophy.
But Fox won't as they are making their money primarily from white folk. As said in the OP, Fox does not need to change, they are making money. The GOP needs to change or keep coming out on the short end of the elections.
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You say that after the Dems spent a $100 million more than the Republicans.
Think of how much good that $100 mil could have done. http://elections.nytimes.com/2012/campaign-finance
And some of us haven't forgotten 2008 and what Obama did to fill his coffers.
Obama's decision to become the first major-party candidate to opt out of public financing for the general election
frees him to continue his record-shattering, Internet-driven fund-raising until November - and probably to outspend McCain by a vast amount.
But it opens the Democrat to accusations of an about-face on past statements that he would take the public grant and limit spending to that amount if the Republican nominee agreed to do likewise .
http://www.boston.com/news/nation/articles/2008/06/20/in_a_shift_obama_rejects_public_funding/ Click to expand...
Back to the OP. Time for GOP to divorce Fox News
This is just another attack on anyone who doesn't toe the literal (socialist) line in the media. Whether TV or radio, if the anchors don't have tickles running down their legs they have targets on their backs. They are racist, for example, as has been demonstrated in this thread. They are hate mongers. They are fear mongers. They are the equivalent of dumb Bible thumping, gun toting, backwoods, hillbilly, red-necked country bumpkins.
Boycott them!
Shut them down!
Bring back the Fairness Doctrine!
Freedom of speech only applies when I agree with the words spoken!
Shut em up any way you can!
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I thought divorce WAS the topic!