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Time is not an Eternal Concept

Discussion in 'Creation vs. Evolution' started by rockytopva, Feb 19, 2020.

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    I am saying that deep time & evolution came from Hinduism. If you believe them, you would have to say that Hinduism is true on that point & Christianity is false on that point, wouldn't you?
     
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    No. Psalms 90:2, ". . . Before the mountains were brought forth, or ever thou hadst formed the earth and the world, even from everlasting to everlasting, thou art God. . . ."
     
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    But science supports deep time/evolution/Hinduism????
     
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    The old universe.
    Change over time.
    Hinduism no. The God of our Bible yes.
     
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    Exactly. You're not even giving a good example. There is no matter to energy or energy to matter conversion in atomic spectrum analysis unless the sample is "burned" or an unwanted chemical reaction occurs.

    Your heart takes matter and changes it to kinetic and heat energy. It then takes chemical energy and changes it back to matter. It does this constantly. This simplest everyday example is what someone who actually understands what is going on would give.
     
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    The reason why E/c2 is so powerful is that c2 is in the denominator.
     
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    All classical phyisics has time as part of their equations. c in c^2 is a distance over time that light is defined to travel.
     
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    C2 is in the denominator, E in joules is in the numerator. When the mass is disassociated there is a lot of energy and light released.
     
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    What would be the physics of nothing existing save for God Himself?
     
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    For our God is a consuming fire. - Hebrews 12::29

    Which would be E/c2, or plasma energy. In my prayers I bless God of being the source of all light and energy... Naturally, intellectually , and spiritually! God can take the dust of the earth and reform it however to his will and liking!
     
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    The mass returns to the light and energy from which she was forged. And God will soon do something else with it!

    10 But the day of the Lord will come as a thief in the night; in the which the heavens shall pass away with a great noise, and the elements shall melt with fervent heat, the earth also and the works that are therein shall be burned up.
    11 Seeing then that all these things shall be dissolved, what manner of persons ought ye to be in all holy conversation and godliness,
    12 Looking for and hasting unto the coming of the day of God, wherein the heavens being on fire shall be dissolved, and the elements shall melt with fervent heat?
    13 Nevertheless we, according to his promise, look for new heavens and a new earth, wherein dwelleth righteousness. - 2 Peter 3
     
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    Did the Universe always exist?
     
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    The mass always existed. The universe as we know it did not begin until God said, let there be light! Disassociating the mass into E/c2 and spreading out from a point of origin. As the mass was originally described as without form, who knows if God uttered something like, “I always wanted to do something with that piece of earth!”
     
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    was there evr a'time" when just God existed, period?
     
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    Existence goes forever back... And, I am afraid, out of my ability to comprehend it.
     
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    There was before any beginning, only God, as God alone is eternal!
     
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    Angels? The Lord Jesus?

    And now, O Father, glorify thou me with thine own self with the glory which I had with thee before the world was. - John 17:5
     
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    God would be Father/Son/Holy Spirit!
     
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    When did the Sons of God with the morning stars singing together?
    4 Where wast thou when I laid the foundations of the earth? declare, if thou hast understanding.
    5 Who hath laid the measures thereof, if thou knowest? or who hath stretched the line upon it?
    6 Whereupon are the foundations thereof fastened? or who laid the corner stone thereof;
    7 When the morning stars sang together, and all the sons of God shouted for joy? - Job 38

    And... What is the first estate of angels?

    And the angels which kept not their first estate, but left their own habitation, he hath reserved in everlasting chains under darkness unto the judgment of the great day. - Jude 1:6
     
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