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Trapping for meat In inflationary times

kyredneck

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That’s only $113, what a bargain for dinner.

Cut into several THICK steaks it's several dinners. If I didn't already have some steaks in the freezer I would've taken advantage of the deal, but decided to have mercy on my wallet instead. :D
 

Cathode

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Thanks. I might have to try them for beaver. They are illegal for everything else in Ga.

Ga, being Georgia? I’d use 3mm fence wire at least for something as hefty as a beaver.
My great uncle was an infamous poacher and punt gun man, said that snares were his best friend.
 

AustinC

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Living along the Mississippi flyway a guy could remain fat on goose meat. Get yourself a retriever and a swamp boat and your good to go.
 

Cathode

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First, you have to make sure it's legal. You can't just kill anything at any time. That is called poaching and you get fined or sent to jail for doing so.
Second, have you ever tried to eat beaver or musk rat? You better have no taste buds or a whole lot of spices to change the taste.
Third, most people in the US are city dwellers or prairie farmers. Fresh, wild game is not available to most people.

But, hey, if you live in remote areas where there are more wild animals than humans, feel free to run a trap line, skin up what you catch, and eat it. Come early July you can start gathering raspberries, blueberries, chokecherries and other edibles. Just watch out for the bears doing the same thing.

You guys have products in your local sport store to deal with bears, just a cheap mossberg pump could knock the biggest down if you ran 1oz slugs.

I heard you guys have urban meat trappers, though.
 

Cathode

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@Cathode



...and what kind of rabbits? Jackrabbits? (which is actually a hare)

We have hares in the eastern states. But rabbits get immune population pockets. We let loose viral controls, but it doesn’t work across the board.
We get very localised plagues which fattens the feral cat and dingo population, but if it gets bad they introduce a variant virus.

Rabbits here are your standard European variety.
 

Cathode

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Living along the Mississippi flyway a guy could remain fat on goose meat. Get yourself a retriever and a swamp boat and your good to go.

We have magpie geese here, I used to hunt them a lot but whenever I cooked them I got very bad runs. Only ate the ones prepared by a Chinese chef friend after a while.
Gave it up because there were too many snakes in the grass, very dangerous and had too many close encounters with coastal taipans. You wouldn’t make it back to town if you got tagged by one. And you wouldn’t send a dog into the Kunai grass, I’ve lost 4 dogs to them.
I saw a lady holding her dog down by the creek the other day, it was tagged by a tiger snake, it died in 20 mins. Long grass and water areas I never let the dogs off anymore, it’s a recipe for sadness.
 

Cathode

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Cheapest red meat is pork, poultry is chicken, fish is whiting.

Pork used to be cheap here. I used to by kilos of pork belly strips years ago, $2 a kilo. Now people have cottoned onto it as some kind of gourmet item and the price has gone right up.
Chicken is roughly the same.
Fish, most people catch their own here.

Lamb is very expensive now. But I see a dude who breeds Dorper Lambs who does me very good deal for the dressed animal.
 

OnlyaSinner

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First, you have to make sure it's legal. You can't just kill anything at any time. That is called poaching and you get fined or sent to jail for doing so.
Second, have you ever tried to eat beaver or musk rat? You better have no taste buds or a whole lot of spices to change the taste.
Third, most people in the US are city dwellers or prairie farmers. Fresh, wild game is not available to most people.

But, hey, if you live in remote areas where there are more wild animals than humans, feel free to run a trap line, skin up what you catch, and eat it. Come early July you can start gathering raspberries, blueberries, chokecherries and other edibles. Just watch out for the bears doing the same thing.
I've eaten beaver and found it decent though a bit bland compared to deer meat. However, if careless handling allows castor gland substance to contaminate the meat, it's garbage. Have not tried muskrat, though its all-veggie diet suggests it would be fine if handled right.
 

kyredneck

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Rabbit snares are easy

Excellent post/instructions for this type of snare, You're good at this. I'll save to file to have in the event of zombie apocalypse. I've a friend from N. Florida that catches deer (they're small there) with the same type snare (bigger cable of course) on trails.

The only snare I used, briefly, was a bent limb or tree using figure four trigger. Come home from school one day, raced to the woods to check the snare, had a huge possum, still alive, snared around it's waist, back feet way off the ground, had made a circular trail on the ground going round and round all night.
 

Cathode

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I've skinned many of them. never cooked one, the meat looks good, but the smell, they're called MUSKrat for a reason. But, some people eat them. In hard times I've no doubt I would.

I believe hyperinflation famine is coming, the Ukraine harvest isn’t going to happen this year, Russia will be under sanctions so its harvest may not be available. Russia also is the biggest fertiliser producer.
Supply chains are only getting more and more tangled.
Everything is pointing to famine, and shortages in the later part of this year.
Biden destroyed American energy independence, and energy is at the heart of the world economy. If energy gets expensive, everything else does.

Hence this thread dudes. I really believe prices will climb very high for everything soon.
Having alternatives for meat with traps and snares, nets and sets for fishing and a cheap hunting option with a 22lr, could be vital.

It was very strange watching the build up to the Ukraine invasion, people were going about as usual and not preparing even as their nation was surrounded in armies.

If you could give those people in Ukraine one day back before the invasion, I believe they would stock things very differently.
I noticed many people were killed waiting in a breadline only 2 weeks in.

Sure some people are poor and can’t stock much, but many had the means and watched the build up and did nothing.

The same thing is happening now with many watching the perfect hyperinflation storm coming, and they are doing nothing.

Foresight is the charism of the responsible, observing and anticipating accordingly.

Biblically we are told to look at the signs to then flee to the hills, presumably with a few items to get by in those hills.
 

Cathode

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Excellent post/instructions for this type of snare, You're good at this. I'll save to file to have in the event of zombie apocalypse. I've a friend from N. Florida that catches deer (they're small there) with the same type snare (bigger cable of course) on trails.

The only snare I used, briefly, was a bent limb or tree using figure four trigger. Come home from school one day, raced to the woods to check the snare, had a huge possum, still alive, snared around it's waist, back feet way off the ground, had made a circular trail on the ground going round and round all night.

Yeah don’t bother with bent tree set up, if you can get away with it. It takes a lot more work, and you could have set 50 snares in that time. Sometimes I’ve only been left with the rabbits head and the body was flung somewhere into the next Shire. Couldn’t find them.

Look for Bush or tree trunks next to the trails and secure snares to those, walk fence lines and see what’s passing under them. Animals will often leave fur behind on the fence wire, so you can identify them and set the appropriate snare. For fence sets I secure the snare to a foot long piece of branch and weave the branch in and out the fence, and wire the branch tight to the fence.
 

Cathode

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Why only rabbits, the law? Around here cottontail rabbit is the best tasting wild red meat to be had, venison included, imo of course.

Apart from the law, the main reason for trapping only rabbits is, set anywhere else you will only catch lizards.

Shinglebacks , black skink, and goannas , we have so many types of reptiles that they are the only type of animal you are likely to catch.
Goannas we call overland trout, because they taste like trout, and like trout are very filling. I have yet to eat a whole trout, max I could get through was half. These lizards would only come onto the menu in a survival scenario. You can count on every native species here to be protected. Only the introduced species are open season, of them only the rabbit is edible.

Australia is a very different continent, the reptile rules here, they mess up everything and are a competitor for the small game you are catching.

If you are in America, you have an enormous number of creatures to trap for.

A part from snares the main traps I use and that just keep on producing are these.

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The Duke #11 long spring.

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And the duke #110

Tough little small game traps, that have just continued to produce tonnage of rabbits. Snares are generally one off use, but these keep producing for years.
 

Cathode

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If the rabbit is still warm, you can process them really easy just by hand. Hold the rabbit up by hind legs and with your other hand pinch the heal skin, this will tear away easy. Tear the skin apart between the hind legs and pull the whole skin off like a sock down to the ears.
Turn the head 5 times and with your index and middle fingers around the neck pull the head off. Head and skin should come off clean.
Gutting, put both thumbs on the spine, and with your fingers tear the belly open wide and push forward like you are fake passing a basket ball and guts should fly straight out. Pull any gut connections out and then rip out organs in the chest cavity, maybe save them for your dogs.

People only need 150 gm or 5 ounces of protein a day if they a staple to eat it with. Rabbit and potatoes, rabbit and rice, rabbit and pasta, or one of my personal favourites, rabbit and split peas.

Yes we a meant to ultimately trust in God, but if we see what is coming and have wherewithal to prepare, it is prudent to do so.
Your preparedness could also be part of the providence of God to bless others.
Hoard nothing, but give to all who ask when things get bad.

So dust off and season your old traps, or acquaint yourself with traps if you haven’t done it before. Start scoping out areas to harvest from, and get gear to preserve a surplus.

I believe life will get very simple soon for millions. People completely unaware and thinking life will be the same are in for a very rude shock. Inflation is already way beyond official figures. Money in the bank will be losing its purchasing power by 25% a quarter when people finally wake up.

Things easy and cheap to stock up on now, will be out of reach to ordinary people soon.
Don’t throw out old medications
Stock up on vitamins.
Buy staple foods in bulk.
Rice, easiest and most energy economic to prepare.
Oats
Pasta
Flour
Beans
Split peas
Canned fish and meat
Honey
Powdered milk
Powdered eggs
Baking soda
Salt for bread, oats, rice and everything else.
Vinegar
Oil
Sugar
Herbs and spices ie cinnamon for oats, garlic and onion flakes for savoury things.
Dehydrated banana and apple for oat breakfasts with cinnamon.
All these are very easy and relatively cheap.

Pretend like you are doing a quarterly shop for a remote Station/Ranch.

2X 100lb propane bottles will give 18 months each for cooking on a small burner. Just don’t boil things for hours on end.
Use a hay box, bring food to a boil, then put pot into insulated hay box for 4 to 5 hours. Things like beans can be very energy hungry, use the haybox for them after presoaking.

Opportunity meat from traps, snares, fishing nets and sets, plus a good 22lr rifle and get a 5000 round farmer pack of good hollow point ammo.
Air rifle with bulk ammo.

Cookware, Large heavy duty stainless steel stock pots for processing, salting, preserving and bulk cooking on gas or fire.
Smaller stainless pots for gravy making through the apocalypse.

Everything revolves around a pot in survival situations.

Rolled carbon steel pans, last for centuries and are lighter than cast iron.

If you can turn your back yard, grow potatoes. They return 10-12 times the weight you put in. Plant 30lbs, get 300lbs.
Keep chickens
Put fruit trees in.
Know a guy who got through the Great Depression with this simple setup.

If you have a gas genset, buy spare carburettors as back up, and convert a spare carburettor to alcohol. Remove the float and weight it, and wind on solder wire till it is 10% heavier and solder secure. Remove jet and drill hole till it’s 40% bigger.
Reassemble your new alcohol carburettor, which can be just bolted on if you need to.

Anyway, it’s all as simple as that.
 
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