Trump: I Have Intel that Casts Doubt on Russian Hacks

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  1. Benjamin Well-Known Member
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    Yup, Obama spoke out of both sides of his mouth but the message he was presenting was clear and the timing sure was "convenient" how it went along perfectly with Hillary's recruiting plan.

    I believe most honest people can read between the lines and clearly see the message Obama was giving and why.
     
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    The language of the interviewer is so tortured it is hard to understand what is being asked. If you simply pay attention to what Obama said, the meaning is much clearer.

    But I know that those who have extreme bias against President Obama are going to hear what they want to hear, so continue with the self-deception.
     
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    The "no true Scotsman" fallacy in operation - "honest" people will see things your way.

    Right...
     
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    "If you like your plan... if you like your doctor...

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    If you are going to apply the "lie once, you can never be believed again" standard, then Mr. Trump cannot be believed.

    However, it is not clear that Obama is doing what is claimed he is doing.

    Carry on.
     
  6. HankD Well-Known Member
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    He once supported traditional marriage now supports same gender marriage.

    He is pro-murder - 3rd trimester abortion.

    HankD
     
  7. Benjamin Well-Known Member
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    Which is worse: The foreign interference of our elections being initiated from a foreign leader (influence by telling the truth) or the foreign interference of our election being initiated from our own leaders (influence by cheating on the numbers with illegal votes)?

    Hmm, so much "sudden" interest by some for punishing Putin (and of course, claiming the election was influenced for Trump) while Obama and Hillary gets a pass after undeniably (if you’re rationally honest…) trying to encourage illegals to vote in our election.

    ...did I hear the word "bias"?
     
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    Also BHO shamelessly tried to influence the Israeli election to effect an overthrow of Netanyahu.

    Any investigation of illegal election tampering for or by the United States should include our sitting presidents actions.

    HankD
     
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    So you're claiming, as Trump does, that he knows more about cyber-hacking and counter-intelligence than the CIA/FBI/NSA experts combined? The only way this is possible is through a treasonous relationship with Communist Russia and Putin. As for myself, I think our intelligence capabilities are superior to those of our enemies the Russians and Trump himself isn't in the same league. Trump vs. the CIA is like a little league team against the New York Yankees. I'll take the Bronx Bombers. Wanna take me up on that?
     
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    The investigation against illegal activities against the "Trump Foundation" is still alive. When he said he would close his foundation, the Attorney General of NY State replied that he couldn't do that because on the ongoing criminal investigation.
     
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    So who is it that you are claiming that Trump knows these things other than Trump?
     
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    Seeing the coverup testimony of Comey I am suspicious of any of this administrations law enforcement agencies from the DOJ down. Trump's info might be from internal whistle blower(s) who want actual justice and not the result of the marxist press spin doctors, Democrat Party partisanship and/or BHO intimidation.

    Soon (January 20) the swamp will be drained.

    HankD
     
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    I regard our intelligence community to be far more knowledgeable than Trump on national security in general and on cyber-attacks specifically.
     
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    So you think Trump without any national intelligence background knows more than the CIA and FBI? Good luck with that. In reality, Trump is adding to the swamp with his cabinet picks, all of which are as clueless about their new responsibility as he is.
     
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    He probably knows more of the truth.

    I believe the FBI and CIA have been corrupted.
    After Trump takes over, the whistle blowers have nothing to fear and will come forward.
    We will probably see those swamps drained as well.

    HankD