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Trump issues shocking statement about ‘alt-left,’ their involvement in Charlottesville terror attack

Discussion in 'News & Current Events' started by Revmitchell, Aug 15, 2017.

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  1. Crabtownboy

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    Not at all. I am asking how can you defend them?

    Your second paragraph is meaningless. There were very few German citizens who were Nazis, but their standing by and not supporting them was a sin of omission. Standing by and not opposing them no is a sin of omission.
     
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    How many wars have you fought in, Matt Black? How many years away from your family? How many of your close friends have you buried due to war?

    I know exactly how I act in the face of adversity.

    Maybe if you'd have seen war up close and personal, you would be so quick to egg on to fringe groups of idiots. Crap like that is how wars start, don't you know. Better to sit back and let things work themselves out nonviolently. Trust me on this.
     
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    So, in your opinion, a person can't just simply affirm a right to free speech? They must be a Nazi?

    Got it. I find your opinion insulting. But I would die to maintain your right to speak it.
     
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    So what ? You want them killed in the womb before they can be radicalized ? Oh, wait, yea, you probably do. Because that's the only way to really prevent this.
     
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    No I am anti abortion
     
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    So you support bombing abortion clinics?




    (Of course not. Just like I can oppose fascism without supporting a bunch of masked, violent communists. See how easy that is.)
     
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    I find your unwillingness to discuss and remain on the topic insulting. You deliberately, unless you are more ignorant than I believe you are, go off down rabbit tracks rather than answering and being honest.

    Do you support the KKK and Nazi agenda?
     
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    I told you, answer my question first.
     
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    Apples and oranges. There are more effective ways to reduce abortion. Options to reduce unrepentant Naziism are more limited sadly. (Although dancing the Tyburn jig on the end of a rope in a Nuremberg gymnasium seemed to do the trick in the 1940s.)
     
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    That's it? Tha's all you got?!
     
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    It was an example of the false dichotomies that this thread is full of.

    Abortion is an act, so I reckon more easy to eradicate. As far as Naziism, how do you destroy an idea? Unfortunately, you can't. That cancer will always be with us, looking for a chance to grow.
     
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    What were you wanting?
     
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    I must have missed it. Tell me again. Thanks.
     
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    Can a person defend a KKK or Nazi member's right to free speech without being a Nazi or Klan sympathizer?
     
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    You will get either crickets or a rambling bunch of nonsense nobody could understand.
     
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    That's a question, not an answer
     
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    Dumbest statement I've seen in a while.
     
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    I thankfully haven't fought in any wars. Neither did my father. That's because my grandfathers by defeating Naziism, and their generation's post-war settlement in Europe, including NATO and the EU, ensured we did not have to. I hoped that my children would not have to either. But, sadly, that legacy that my grandfathers' generation fought for so hard is now being undermined by Brexit and the likes of Trump and the Nazis. So I really fear for the future now, not so much for me but for my kids. Truly scary times. So, no, I haven't fought in a war, thanks be to God, but if the English Defence League or Britain First marches in my town, I would leave my desk and my office and man the barricades against them, like the good folk in Charlottesville did. I'd probably get my head kicked in and need a new suit, but I would have done my small part.
     
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    Yes, as long as that speech falls within the court definitions of free speech. Do you agree?

    However, that does not mean I agree with their stated goals, their philosophy and actions. Almost everything they espouse is immoral.

    But, you did not answer my question. Do you support the philosophy of the KKK and Whities?
     
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    Guys all of this trying to tie Trump to hate and trying to tie conservatives to racism is all about getting rid of Trump no matter how much the left needs to get down in the gutter. They are willing to do anything and will be vicious about it kind of like we are seeing on this board. Its dishonest, its unChristian, it lacks any kind of integrity, and it is as evil and their assertions.
     
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