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Trump's Tax Reform Plan

Discussion in 'Political Debate & Discussion' started by InTheLight, Apr 20, 2017.

  1. Happy

    Happy Well-Known Member
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    Are you studied and educated in the Law, in Healthcare, in Scripture? I am.

    You are the one asking the questions that have obvious answers for anyone studied and educated in Law, Healthcare, Scriptural knowledge of taking care of onesself, Liberty, Government operations and the most obvious, a country divided between liberty supporters and freebie activists.
     
  2. InTheLight

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    I can't make sense out of your post because you've got the Quote function tags all misplaced.

    Look, the President is not doing a "good job" according to the goals he set for himself. He said he was going to do many things in his first 100 days and he's done only a couple of them.

    Repeal and replace Obamacare? Fail
    Muslim travel ban? Fail
    Withdraw from TPP? Success.
    Nominate and confirm SCOTUS judge? Success.
    Get rid of sanctuary cities? Fail
    Start building the wall? Fail
    Reverse Obama's Executive orders? Mostly Success.
    Approve Keystone Pipeline? Success.
    Introduce legislation for term limits? Fail
    Label China a currency manipulator? Fail
    Introduce legislation for tax reform? Fail
    Hiring freeze on all federal employees? Enacted, then reversed.
    Ban on hiring foreign agents from raising money for US elections? Fail
    End the offshoring act? Fail
    School Choice and Education Act? Fail
    Affordable Child Care Act? Fail
    Clean up Corruption in Washington Act? Fail

    You still have not told me why Reagan and Bush could get tax reform done and Trump cannot. Asking me a question about my level of knowledge of the process and/or the non sequitur about Trump creating jobs that will rile freeloaders is not addressing my question. So, why can't Trump get this done?
     
  3. InTheLight

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    .[​IMG]

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  4. InTheLight

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    Axios' Mike Allen sat down with Speaker of the House Paul Ryan at this morning's Axios News Shapers event. One big thing from Ryan: he believes that Republicans can get tax reform done by the end of the year.

    "We want to make sure that by the time the year closes people are coming into a new tax agenda."

    Paul Ryan: We'll finish tax reform by the end of the year





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  5. InTheLight

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    Meanwhile this from Dear Leader:

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    WASHINGTON – House Freedom Caucus Chairman Mark Meadows (R-N.C.) and other conservative members of the House of Representatives are calling on House Speaker Paul Ryan (R-Wis.) to delay the August recess so Republicans have a better chance of passing parts of President Trump’s agenda.

    Meadows said Republicans would not be able to pass a tax reform package if they wait to begin the legislative process in September.

    “I think we may need to move it up sooner. If we are waiting until September that means we will not get tax reform, guys, if we’re waiting until September. You guys have all been around. If we wait until September that means that we get legislative text maybe in October, that means that we maybe get it out of here if it’s fast-tracked by the end of October, which means that it goes over to the Senate and it sits there,” Meadows said.

    “There’s zero chance that gets enacted into law before the end of the year."


    Freedom Caucus Chairman: ‘Zero Chance’ for Tax Reform if Congress Doesn’t Start Now


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    The Tax Plan has been derailed by the Democrats, RINO, Neocon and turncoat Republicans because it will require SPENDING CUTS:eek:


    (my emboldening)

    Op-Ed: Here’s the ugly truth that critics of Trump’s tax plan need to face

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  9. InTheLight

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    The tax reform plan has not been derailed, it has not even been introduced in Congress yet. That is the problem.

    Article is about spending cuts, not tax reform or tax cuts. I don't know why you posted it in a thread about Trump's tax reform plans.
     
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    I disagree on both counts.

    It hasn't been introduced because it is being held back by the socialist "republicans", RINOS,NEOCONS and turncoats.

    Democrats are by nature tax and spend addicts.

    Secondly it is plain as those blinders you wear - that is EXACTLY the issue - SPENDING CUTS.
    Take off those blinders please. :)

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    The House Ways and Means Committee is the committee tasked with introducing tax legislation. The committee is comprised of 24 Republicans and 16 Democrats. It is chaired by Kevin Brady R-TX. I seriously doubt any of these Republicans are opposed to tax cuts. Please find one of these Republicans that opposes tax cuts.

    As to spending cuts, it need not have anything to do with tax cuts. The Republicans could introduce a tax cut bill with a sunset feature, say 10 or 15 years, that would be a way to pass it without spending cuts. This is exactly how George W. Bush got around a revenue neutral tax cut bill.
     
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    All very subjective ITL and mostly impossible to prove.

    I believe you would be surprised by the number of Republican turncoats who for the sake of their hatred of President Trump would do WHATEVER it takes even to the sacrificing of their life long convictions upon the altar of IMPEACH ANTI-ESTABLISHMENT, NON GOOD OLE BOY TRUMP (who is a Russian spy and tweets).

    HankD
     
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    Would be easy to prove. Just go to each Republican's web site and look at their policy position on taxes. I bet you won't find one that opposes a tax cut.


    So you're saying there are Republicans in the House that would vote to impeach Trump? Feel free to correct me, but that's what you just said.
     
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    Yes, but we won't know that for sure until it happens.

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    Mnuchin: We're "very close" to releasing a tax plan

    Treasury Secretary Steven Mnuchin said his department is "very close to releasing a detailed plan" on tax reform at a senate budget hearing Wednesday.

    Mnuchin: We're "very close" to releasing a tax plan

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    Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell said both chambers plan to take up tax reform in September, adding both the Senate Committee on Finance and House Committee on Ways and Means plans will mark up the legislation after it is written.

    McConnell said Republicans are planning to use the reconciliation process for tax reform, arguing they will need to employ the parliamentary procedure due to Democrats’ hesitance to work with them on overhauling the tax code.

    Reconciliation allows the upper chamber to pass a budgetary-related bill with a simple majority, offering the GOP the ability to push for more conservative reforms.

    “We will need to use reconciliation because we have been informed by the majority of the Democrats in a letter I just received today that most of the principles that would get the country growing again, they’re not interested in addressing,” McConnell told reporters Tuesday. “So, I don’t think this is going to be 1986 when you had a bipartisan effort to scrub the code.”

    McConnell: We Will Need To Use Reconciliation For Tax Reform
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    So they didn't need to repeal/replace Obamacare first. They don't need 60 votes. They just wasted 9 months which means we are 9 months further away from the economy really picking up thanks to a new tax code. When Reagan's tax cuts went through it was a little bit over a year before the economic numbers really started to go upwards.

    I doubt they will get a tax reform bill passed this year.
     
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    8/2/17: Note--this never happened on that Wednesday.
     
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    Note--This did not happen. The House went on their August recess as scheduled.
     
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    Meanwhile, from your favorite news source.

    America Creates 1 Million Jobs in Trump’s First Six Months
    Experts Stumped: Expected Slowdown After Obama Exit


    It's very clear the Republicans are rebelling and lied to their constituents. John McCain the biggest liar of them all. In fact now there's a donor suing the GOP for lying Obamacare repeal.

    Meanwhile,

    Dow chalks up eighth record close in a row...

    Record 153,513,000 Employed...


    Seems Trump is the only one left that is keeping his promises (and a few other Senators and legislatures, to be fair). Maybe God is blessing him (while all his enemies are cursing him). Maybe those weekly Bible Studies at the WH are having an impact.
     
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    Record 153,513,000 Employed...
     
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