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Featured Was God Wrathful before the Fall?

Discussion in 'Baptist Theology & Bible Study' started by Mikey, Nov 25, 2018.

  1. HankD

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    Yes "above the heights of the clouds".
     
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    Ironic, as he is called the "god of the air"
     
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    Good is not moral, Good is according to God's purpose . This is a physical creation not spiritual. Satan was here already
     
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    Satan sinned before fall of man and was expelled from Heaven to here, He and soothe were already experiencing some wrath, but more is to come
     
  5. HankD

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    Can you prove that satan sinned before the fall of man?
    Must we judge Him before God does in Genesis 3:14 well after the creation of man?
     
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    He was here as Satan to tempt Eve
     
  7. HankD

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    Again he had not yet been judged (Genesis 3:14).
     
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    When did Jesus see Him fall as like lightning from heaven than?
     
  9. HankD

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    I don't know maybe when he was cursed in Genesis 3:14.
     
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    yes, He was in sin, or he would still be in Heaven.

    The expulsion happen as the universe was created. They were sent in darkness and there was no darkness in Heaven.
    Sin is the cause of this universe being created or we would all be in Heaven
     
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    a long time before
     
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    OK we disagree but OK no biggie.

    I will also agree that his questioning of God's motives probably started long before his sin of the attempted destruction of mankind -
    who bore the image and likeness of their creator.
     
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    Satan started sin, it was ego. Adam is part of redemption process
     
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    If Satan wanted to ascend above the clouds, the clouds would have to exist... so at the very least the fall of Satan was after the creation of the universe.
     
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