WATCH: Survey Reveals a Startling Truth About White Christians
Most polls don't matter much. But this one does. A recent Public Religion Research Institute survey has revealed a devastating truth: While about 80 percent of black Christians believe police-involved killings -- like the ones that killed Tamir Rice, Laquan McDonald, and so many more -- are part of a larger pattern of police treatment of African Americans, around 70 percent of white Christians believe the opposite ... that they are simply isolated incidents.
And before many begin disassociating with the term "white Christians," we should look deeper. The numbers include 72 percent of white evangelical Protestants, 71 percent of white Catholics, and 73 percent of white mainline Protestants. This is about all white Christians.
What's worse? Take away the moniker of "Christian" and the numbers drop to around 65 percent. White Christians are as a whole less likely to believe the experiences of black Americans than non-Christian whites. This is a shameful indictment of the church. We need to change this -- and we can.
It's time for white Christians to act more Christian than white.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/jim-w...ians_b_8990914.html?ncid=txtlnkusaolp00000592
WATCH: Survey Reveals a Startling Truth About White Christians
Discussion in 'News & Current Events' started by Zaac, Jan 15, 2016.
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Why do you hate yourself so much, Zaac?
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righteousdude2 Well-Known MemberSite Supporter
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But that wasn't addressed in the article. -
Scarlett O. ModeratorModerator
Nothing like leading off with the sentence "Most polls don't matter, but this one does!" Laugh
I checked the sampling. They only surveyed 292 black people and only 1393 white "christians". They determined the white people to be "christian" by them choosing between a selection of choices. One does not check a box and declare him or herself to be saved.
The number of black christians was not given.
Also, by their own admission, ..... "In addition to sampling error, surveys may also be subject to error or bias due to question wording,context, and order effects."
I think the question wording was poor. "Do you think recent killings of African American men by police are isolated incidents, or are they part of a broader pattern of how police treat African Americans?"
That's a leading question - to both blacks and whites, christian or unbeliever. Most white people do not live in areas where these events occur. Of course they are going to see them as isolated events. Why were they painted as bad for that opinion? The question ends with "how police treat African Americans". That's a hot topic. Many African Americans have experienced injustice on many levels. Of course, the majority of those 292 black people will say it's a broader pattern.
How the article translates that into white people are evil hypocrites and hate black people (that was the thrust of the "findings", even though not stated directly), I'll never know.
The question also gave no room for any other finding.
What about cultural and family and inner city problems that give rise to young black men being prone sometimes to these problems? What does that mean "broader pattern"? What about white flight in some neighborhoods that might leave white people less knowledgeable of any "broader pattern"?
Alas, there was only two choices - one of them vague and undefined.
And white people were made to be haters ...... once again by virtue of these oh-so-scientific findings. -
"Statistics and propaganda - the most manipulated commodities on earth" - anonymous circa 1968.
How about - "do infidel lives matter - to Muslims"?
Ya, I know its a politically incorrect question.
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The same way you can look at the news and say there is a pattern of extreme Muslim aggression across the globe you should be able to see the pattern of how police are obviously policing black people differently. Your proximity to said events is irrelevant.
The pattern for what you're doing now and what white Christians did during slavery and Jim Crow is the same. Ya'll don't see a problem because you don't want to.
But if somebody says there is a pattern of increasing Christian persecution in the United States, I bet that will be easy for some of ya to see even if it's not in your "proximity".:rolleyes:
The same things go on in white communities. When your focus is on the black communities and not the white communities, then of course it's gonna look like they are prone to it. That's why the survey asks what it does.
Some of you seem to be all for statistics and these little studies until they start to shed some light on how the folks in our demographics rally act and think. -
Scarlett O. ModeratorModerator
Ah, I did not see the Black Protestant - 221. But I did count up the White Christians.
You know, for years "studies" proved that eggs and caffiene would kill us all. Now caffiene is supposed to prevent Alheimzer's and eggs should be eaten often.
I could go on, but I don't see a point to it. -
"i.e. Blacks are three times more likely to rob a gas station than are Whites". Such statements are just wrong ALL day.
Gosh every other day, Fox News gives a poll or a survey result in which they have used the same process to decide who folks in Iowa are more likely to vote for or to tell us why Millennials won't vote for Hillary Clinton. And the folks they present the information to accept it just fine because the folks presenting it present it as an absolute truth.
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I find that much more true of you than of Don...or anyone else here for that matter. You spout a lot of disrespectful garbage at your "christian brothers". -
I spout the truth to my Christian brothers who like you constantly display a spirit not much at all like Christ with everyone with whom you disagree politically because your positions CERTAINLY have nothing to do with Christ.
And if that rubs you the wrong way,. I'm not one of those folks who bow at a political trough that poses as a Christian one. I don't have to be buddy buddy with ya and you don't have to accept the truth from me. Just keep dismissing it as disrespectful garbage and I'll just keep on rubbing ya the wrong way.
Now naturally I expect more on here to agree with you than disagree because much like a lot of Baptist churches, this board should be known as a Politically Conservative Board well before it should be called a Baptist anything. -
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Told ya. Biggrin
You wouldn't know the truth if it bit you on the nose, mister "white privilege". -
You wouldn't know the truth if it stepped on your toes which it often does , mister "white power". -
Squire Robertsson AdministratorAdministrator
This kind of back and forth closes this thread.