What constitutes a Baptist church?

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  1. Jerome Well-Known Member
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    So...???
    What's the reason not to have had a deacon?
     
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    If no need for formal pastors, why did God inspire Paul to write about their qualifications then?
     
    Yeshua1, Dec 9, 2016
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    I didn't say there was no need. Not sure where you pulled that from.
     
    Revmitchell, Dec 9, 2016
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    Just was agreeing with you, and not Bro James!
     
    Yeshua1, Dec 9, 2016
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    I sincerely doubt that any Baptist Church can really claim this particular....anyway, I personally have never seen it. Is there really one that anyone can point to as an example (a real one, not a fudge factor one)
     
    Earth Wind and Fire, Dec 9, 2016
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    Every Baptist church I have ever been a member of. And that count now stands at 11 churches. Want me to name them?
     
    TCassidy, Dec 9, 2016
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    I have never seen "actively carrying out the Great Commission" .... they do occasionally talk the talk......never though, walk the walk.Why is that?
     
    Earth Wind and Fire, Dec 9, 2016
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    No I want you to prove to me that they are truly Transformed people, truly regenerate. Can you do that?
     
    Earth Wind and Fire, Dec 9, 2016
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    Any in New Jersey......?!?
     
    Earth Wind and Fire, Dec 9, 2016
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    Nope. With the exception of 2 all are west of the Mississippi. :)
     
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    Certainly. Simply because any unregenerate were simply in attendance and not a member being as the requirement for membership is to be a baptized believer.
     
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    Every ministry of our church is for the purpose of evangelistic outreach.

    And what does the meaningless (and more than slightly self-righteous) cliche "walk the walk" mean to you? Are you accusing all Christians (except yourself, of course) of not being as spiritually mined as you are?
     
    TCassidy, Dec 9, 2016
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    But Ive seen those who claim it but they are not.
     
    Earth Wind and Fire, Dec 9, 2016
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    Then they are not members, are they.
     
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    your off base....I'm simply saying that there are people (in every baptist church Ive been affiliated with) who are unsaved. They pretend salvation but they are not & you see that by their actions. In these churches, the Pastor spends the lions share of his time trying to reach them as apposed to developing saved people to being disciples.
     
    Earth Wind and Fire, Dec 9, 2016
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    Oh yes they are.......sad isnt it.
     
    Earth Wind and Fire, Dec 9, 2016
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    So it's not really a church service, it's more like an evangelistic outreach every sunday morning?
     
    JonShaff, Dec 9, 2016
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    No, they aren't. They can't be. The requirement is that they must be a believer!
     
    TCassidy, Dec 9, 2016
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    Its exactly what Biblicist claims regarding his many (now) posts about The Great Commission, so I suppose that there is a evangelistic element but I see most are content to sit in the pews (kinda a Pray Pay & Obey Mentality) & thats the direction they stay in..... see if they get Baptized, Say the right thing, get accepted by the group they think they have arrived.......but see it shows no fruit.

    Its kinda like this, probably a lousy analogy, but here goes 'Dating Service vs the Date' LOL! We contract with the dating service, we are concerned with those people liking us, that we've filled out all the paperwork etc but we havent gone on the date (told you it was silly) ..... but see whats really telling, we aren't in love yet, we havent met the one we would give everything up for, its not transformation...we just think it is & we are.

    My own experience with God was similar....for years I thought I was a Christian but I really wasn't. Churches validated me as Christian, I was on the books, participated but I really wasn't there.....I didn't really have a changed heart nor was I transformed / regenerated.....and that is what I see happening here. These folks are on the books, dunked, church members etc., but they (Are Not transformed) and that causes serious consequences. And I can name them if you want me to.....but the end result is no growth, rather a shrinking into nothingness. Come take a look if you have a mind to visit New Jersey. Its sad!!!
     
    Earth Wind and Fire, Dec 9, 2016
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    Interesting...yes i do have a mind to visit NJ, i was born and raised in Philly/nj...what part?
     
    JonShaff, Dec 9, 2016
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