Following up on another thread, this is a poll to see what we believe about hell. We will say up front that “hell” is a Germanic word and therefore it inevitably has connections to the ancient pre-Christian beliefs of people who are, for many (probably most) of us, our distant ancestors. So, while the word hell is used for many concepts of the dead in the Bible-- sheol, gehenna, hades, the lake of fire-- we will confine its meaning here to the place to which the souls of those who died physically without the blood of Jesus “go” upon physical death; thus, differentiating it from the grave which holds the remains of those without breath, and from the Lake of Fire, the eternal situation of the unsaved and of hell itself. So please do not argue the semantics in this thread so we can really compare what we believe about the concepts, not the terms..
What do we believe about “hell?”
Discussion in 'Baptist Theology & Bible Study' started by Alcott, May 25, 2016.
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Hell is literally and physically fire and brimstone that torments persons in body
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There is a spiritual equivalent of fire, brimstone, and body in the true spiritual hell
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There is no real hell; its just a representation of God's anger against refusing His love
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Hell is just a horror concept to make people accept authority of church and clergy
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Hell is, in essence, purgatory-- renegade Christians are purified there before the Lake of Fire
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Hell, like Satan and sin, must be redefined in modern times as entirely abstract
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If God would really condemn anyone to hell, I question Him being a God of mercy
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The real torment of hell is the absence of God
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I don't think I could be happy in heaven if anone I dearly loved is in hell
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As much as I want to believe the Bible, I cannot believe a loving God would sentence anyone to hell
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Multiple votes are allowed.
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Baptist Believer Well-Known MemberSite Supporter
None of the above.
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I would have liked to agree with "The real torment of hell is the absence of God" but could not due to the way it is worded.
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evangelist6589 Well-Known MemberSite Supporter
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evangelist6589 Well-Known MemberSite Supporter
It would appear based on the other thread that MOST on this board hold to the traditional view on Hell (which is good). For disagreement one can visit christianforums.com or some other website.
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When I tried to vote it said I gave an unspecified error...hahaha!
I believe hell is real, literal, and quite horrible beyond our wildest imagination. It is conscious and brings immense suffering. I believe everything the Bible teaches about it. -
There are some who hold to annihilation, so I take it this must mean those suffering in hell now, for 'thousands of years' cannot wait for the consummation of the age so they can get relief from their torment. This is only one reason I reject the theory of non eternal suffering and punishment. -
Then without thinking, those who call Jesus their Lord and Savior profane His sacrifice by denying this truth because Jesus bore in Himself the sins of His people and drank to the full the cup of the wrath of God against sin. They also make themselves wiser than God who has shown these things by plain illustration. If there are any reading this board who have a contrary opinion consider the following:
Mark 9
43 And if thy hand offend thee, cut it off: it is better for thee to enter into life maimed, than having two hands to go into hell, into the fire that never shall be quenched:
44 Where their worm dieth not, and the fire is not quenched.
45 And if thy foot offend thee, cut it off: it is better for thee to enter halt into life, than having two feet to be cast into hell, into the fire that never shall be quenched:
46 Where their worm dieth not, and the fire is not quenched.
47 And if thine eye offend thee, pluck it out: it is better for thee to enter into the kingdom of God with one eye, than having two eyes to be cast into hell fire:
48 Where their worm dieth not, and the fire is not quenched.
The worm here are maggots and if we can all understand fire. Here is a hideous illustration of a worm that is everlastingly consuming an unconsummable body. Here is a fire that everlasting burns that fuel that can never be burned up. Isaiah spoke this also as we see in Isaiah 66:24
And they shall go forth, and look upon the carcasses of the men that transgressed against me: for their worm shall not die, neither shall their fire be quenched; and they shall be an abhorring unto all flesh.
To imagine any supposed annihilation is an invention of the minds of men. See what the prophets have said and moreover our Lord Jesus Christ. And take the lesson well. Cast sin away from you and turn from it. -
It seems to be true that there is not much variation of beliefs on this board in regard to topics such as the afterlife, so many of these poll answers are lonely.
So how about this question: do we retain any form of our own will in heaven/paradise? In common human interactions it is said, "nobody's perfect." In scripture it is put "all have sinned and come short..." So our own wills are not acceptable (perfect). So if we still have any such, might we be kicked out? Did anybody ever sing a silly song that starts "Found a peanut'...in which that idea is presented? The idea May not be as silly as the song if we do indeed still have our own will, for no matter how many centuries we're "there," we would do something less than perfect. -
I appreciate your candor and honesty. -
This notion that nobody's perfect is as anti-Christian as can be. Jesus "be perfect, as you Father in heaven is perfect"
Now, He didn't say ACT perfect, He said BE perfect. In the same context, He told them about seeming the kingdom of God and HIS righteousness.
Funny, Paul said the kingdom of God is righteousness in the Holy Spirit (Romans 14:22) and that in becoming a new creation we BECOME the righteousness (2Cor 5:21)
He saved us - by the washing of regeneration (Titus 3:5)
If a man's righteousness goes no further than "credited" then he simply is not born again.
In regeneration, our spirit is cleansed of sin
In resurrection, our body will be.
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This is the exact opposite of condemning those who you think are of less spiritual worth than you think you are. -
My little children, I am writing these things to you so that you may not sin. And if anyone sins, we have an Advocate with the Father, Jesus Christ the righteous [I John 2:1].
Either Jesus is an advocate for non-Christians, or Christians are not perfect.
Euclid wrote out the axioms of geometry, which have been followed for centuries. But the beginning of non-Euclidean geometry was based on one of his axioms which stated:
In a plane, given a line and a point not on it, at most one line parallel to the given line can be drawn through the point.
This has been argued, because 'point,' 'line,' and 'plane' are themselves presumptions, and any point can be considered infinitely small. That being the case, how can there be only one parallel line to another line through that one (other) point? There can be many, or else, when thinking infinitely small, then all lines must eventually meet somewhere, and therefore parallel is only an imaginary concept. That, to me, is a mathematical equivalent to the question, "Can we go to infinity [eternity] never changing from perfection? Not, as far as I can see, if we still have a will of our own, and anything in the infinitesimally small difference between God's will and our will is imperfection-- sin. -
Now, He didn't say ACT perfect, He said BE perfect.
God isn't righteous because He acts righteous. And neirher is a Christian.
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evangelist6589 Well-Known MemberSite Supporter
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Nope. In all actuality your philosophy is what is antichrist. It is exactly what 1 John refers to. You're in grave error. -
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If it were such grave error, it would be easy to demonstrate from scripture. But I see that part was lacking
Good job. I'm sure somewhere there is a Roman Catholic priest whose awful proud of you -
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