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What Happened To mankind in the fall of Adam ?

Discussion in 'Baptist Theology & Bible Study' started by Yeshua1, Apr 25, 2018.

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  1. JonC

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    Yes. If they believe Jesus was "more human than human" then they taught a false doctrine. If they believe Jesus had to be born of a virgin to avoid inheriting a "sin nature" then they are wrong and should rely on Scripture rather than superstition.
     
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    yes,
     
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    The Garden of Eden was on earth, correct?
     
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    YES,

    Jhn 3:18

    He that believeth on him is not condemned: but he that believeth not is condemned already, because he hath not believed in the name of the only begotten Son of God.

    When could you be condemned ?
     
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    So Adam sinned while on earth....
     
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    He sinned as we all sin, in a human body. But we are condemned already.. Sin is spiritual not physically transmitted , so you had to sin before you were condemned
     
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    All of us were judged as being guilty before God, as he represented all of us before God!
     
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    Baloney!
     
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    So we were not found to be sinners and in a lost state, all who are now in Adam?
     
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    we are not found to be guitly of Adam's sin
     
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    You really should take your Mormon beliefs down to Other Denominations.

    Tell me the Baptist group that teaches this nonsense.


    God bless.
     
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    Could you give Scripture for that? And I mean the Bible, not extra-biblical resources from cults.


    God bless.
     
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    Read the Bible, not man's ego

    Try the words in Red first
     
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    No, because sin isn't in your flesh and bone. It's in what animates your flesh and bone.
     
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    No.

    Well, it's a bit bigger than that. This Creation was not about destroying the Devil and His Works. It was about glorifying and exalting the Son, and showing the riches of His love and goodness to those who would be the heirs of salvation.

    God is also going to destroy the Devil and his works, but He is not constrained by any necessity to create man and die for man in order to do so.

    Again, to glorify and exalt His Son, and to demonstrate His love and goodness and His power to those who would be heirs of salvation.

    No. Salvation could only be wrought by One who is incorruptible and Who had the power of an endless life. Adam was good, but was corruptible and mortal. He was tempted of the Devil, and He was corrupted and died, and death holds him. Jesus could not be corrupted. He was tempted of the Devil, and was not corrupted (indeed, could not be, because He is God [and Adam is not]) and though He was given a flesh and blood body so that He could be weak enough to taste death, death could not hold him, and He was raised and made a High Priest by the power of an endless life.

    Yes, and that purpose is the glory and exaltation of the Son.
     
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    Psalm 2 shows God's Plan from eternity's past. The Father is going to Give His Son a Love gift and Kingdom--a people to worship and adore Him--through the Power of the Holy Spirit--for all of Eternity.
     
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    We are found to have sinned in Adam!
     
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    what in the word does that even mean? Please break it down.
     
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    We are all sinners by our natures though!
     
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    God reckoned all of us as being in Adam, so when he fell and become corrupted, all after him physically born would also be!
     
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