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Featured Which was better translation, 1984/2011 Niv?

Discussion in 'Bible Versions & Translations' started by Yeshua1, Apr 11, 2018.

  1. rlvaughn

    rlvaughn Well-Known Member
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    Genesis 3:16 (New International Version)
    16 To the woman he said,

    “I will make your pains in childbearing very severe;
    with painful labor you will give birth to children.
    Your desire will be for your husband,
    and he will rule over you.”
     
  2. Yeshua1

    Yeshua1 Well-Known Member
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    So there was and is still some significant Christian groups against the Niv 2011 revision, as those same groups did endorse the 1984 edition.
     
  3. Rippon

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    Most people against the 2011 NIV are also against the 1984 edition.

    Why no comment on WELS?
    Why no comment on LifeWay?
    Why no comment on the NIV translation of Genesis 3:16?
     
  4. Rippon

    Rippon Well-Known Member
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    Why no response from Y1 on the above?
     
  5. Yeshua1

    Yeshua1 Well-Known Member
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    I think that many who liked the 1984 are against the 2011 Niv, as Baptists/Lutherans and others did actually use and endorse the 1984 version, but no tthe 2011 revision!
     
  6. Rippon

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    Y1, there you go again. You quote my entire post without dealing with any of its content. It is pointless to quote someone
    without treating any of the content.

    Please answer the questions I posed in #24 and #25.
     
  7. Yeshua1

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    I already have, as there were several groups who endorsed the 1984, but not the new revision!
     
  8. Rippon

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    For the slow to understand Y1. Please deal with the above.
     
  9. Rippon

    Rippon Well-Known Member
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    Deal with the above Y1. To run, dodge and evade.
     
  10. Rippon

    Rippon Well-Known Member
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    Well, well. I posted the above on May 1, 2018 and asked y1 to respond to those three questions several times.

    But y1 is not in the habit of answering direct, easy questions.

    He would prefer to duck and dodge. It would make him feel uncomfortable to address specifics and force him to fess up.
     
  11. Reynolds

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    To me that's like asking would you rather have the flu or food poisoning. I am not a KJVO, but I am a never the NIV.
     
  12. Yeshua1

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    the Niv was an acceptable one, but when the 2011 revision hit, many Baptists stopped using it, including churches and ministries!
     
  13. Rippon

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    What's the matter y1? Does the cat have your tongue?

    I have asked the same series of questions in posts 23, 24, 26, 28, 29 and 30.

    The questions appear to be easy, but you apparently think they are hard. But actually they would be difficult if you are dishonest.
    If you became honest it would be a simple task.

    Just three simple questions --give it an honest try with no evasion, no quibbling, no irrelevancies.
     
  14. Martin Marprelate

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    The 2011 version does have several improvements over the 1984, but its gender-inclusive policy makes it unacceptable to me.
    Two churches where I'm sometimes invited to preach have switched to the ESV.
     
  15. Rippon

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    Nonsense. But of course you're the guy who'd like to toss the CSB in the trash.

    And you're okay with its inclusive language.
     
  16. Martin Marprelate

    Martin Marprelate Well-Known Member
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    Are you asking me or telling me?
     
  17. Rippon

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    Just noting your inconsistency.
     
  18. Martin Marprelate

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    Well I am noting yours. You have almost no idea what my view of the ESV is-- I have certainly not expressed a view of it on this thread-- and you can't be bothered to ask because
    A. You are almost incredibly rude.
    B. You would sooner be ignorant.
     
  19. Rippon

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    You must be going through personal problems. MM. Don't take them to the BB.
     
  20. Martin Marprelate

    Martin Marprelate Well-Known Member
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    That's it, Rippon! Play the man and not the ball. What a great example of a Christian you are! :Rolleyes
     
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