Is the real question, Who are the elect or should the question be Why the elect?
Are the elect, elected for the sole purpose of giving them salvation or are they elected for the purpose of serving as kings and priests with Christ in the kingdom of God?
What is the absolute purpose for the elect?
Acts 15:14 Simeon hath declared how God at the first did visit the Gentiles, to take out of them a people for his name. Are these the elect?
16 After this I will return, and will build again the tabernacle of David, which is fallen down; and I will build again the ruins thereof, and I will set it up:
Does after this mean, after God is through taking out of the nations a people for his name, he will then return and set up the tabernacle of David? Does the tabernacle of David have anything to do with the throne of David?
Then what takes place?
17 That the residue of men might seek after the Lord, and all the Gentiles, upon whom my name is called, saith the Lord, who doeth all these things.
Notice the residue of man is seeking not only the Lord but the Lord and the elect upon his name is called.
Joel 2:32 says the same thing but there the elect is the residue whom God has called (elected)
Who are the elect?
Discussion in 'Baptist Theology & Bible Study' started by Winman, Feb 4, 2012.
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Reply to Forest;
You seem to understand that no one is regenerated, quickened before they are spiritually put in Christ.
Whose faith? Good question. The faith in view in Ephesians 2:8 is our faith in Christ, because our faith provides our access to the grace in which we stand, Romans 5:2. But in several verses, what is in view is Christ's faithfulness, even to the point of death of the cross, saved us, i.e. Galatians 2:16.
I would be honored to try to explain any verse you believe contradicts my view. For example John 6:37-41 does not, in my opinion say what you claim it says. But it certainly says everyone given to Christ is saved. However it does not say everyone drawn by God is saved. -
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have to define "All", and how that refers to Will of God....
jesus died so that ALl could have been saved, his death sufficient in worth to save all, but ONLY those whom God effectually grcaed to get saved by that act will get saved!
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If only the true elect were saved, only Jews would be saved. There is not one Gentile ever shown to be elect in the Bible. Gentiles are grafted in not elected from before the foundation of the world. Christ died so that the world might be saved. Not that the world would be saved but, that they might be and that meant there are conditions and they are belief confession of sin and surrender to the righteousness of God.
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Good post.
Unfortunetly, it will probably fall on deaf ears regarding these ones who have been duped by calvinisms errors. -
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Since you say they were all Christians, as you claim. How would they perish? Are you saying they could loose there Salvation.
This is what your interpretation leads to, absolute confusion. Then you told me that I interpreted these wrong. I think maybe you should double check your own interpretation
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