Historians could answer that webdog. The Incas? The Aztecs? The Eskimos? Did they hear the Gospel?
Why did God create Hell?
Discussion in 'General Baptist Discussions' started by menageriekeeper, Aug 26, 2007.
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pinoybaptist Active MemberSite Supporter
In my limited understanding this doctrine says that in the Millenium, there will be those who will temporarily be excluded in the visible kingdom, but what do I know ?
I'm just the guy who wants to give those who burn kids some hell.:smilewinkgrin:
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Romans 1:19,20 does answer the question about those who have not heard. It says that creation itself is a witness. Years past we often said that if a man seeks God through creation, God will send a preacher to relate the gospel.....But, Pauls does say that "they are without excuse."
All the elect will be saved!
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Colossians 1:4-6 Since we heard of your faith in Christ Jesus, and of the love which ye have to all the saints, For the hope which is laid up for you in heaven, whereof ye heard before in the word of the truth of the gospel; Which is come unto you, as it is in all the world; and bringeth forth fruit, as it doth also in you, since the day ye heard of it, and knew the grace of God in truth:
Colossians 1:23 If ye continue in the faith grounded and settled, and be not moved away from the hope of the gospel, which ye have heard, and which was preached to every creature which is under heaven; whereof I Paul am made a minister;
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pinoybaptist Active MemberSite Supporter
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I tend to agree with Jim on this subject. -
Sir, I percieve you are in need of an understanding of the rigtheousness and holiness of God. A good study on ALL His divine attributes would clear this up for you. -
Really, they are.
Do you all see how God's justice is despised by modern Christendom while his love is exalted? Is this not unbalanced? This is idolatry. We can't pick the things we like about God and throw out the aspects that are offensive to our carnal minds. Hell is a biblical doctrine. And yes, it is an infinite deity inflicting eternal torture on mortal beings, and God does ALL things for His own glory, and we should praise every aspect of our creator, including His justice.
In fact, David often praises God's justice in the Psalms when he says such things as 'Thou hatest all workers of iniquity' and speaking of God coming with vengance on His enemies. -
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pinoybaptist Active MemberSite Supporter
christianyouth:
I happen to agree with you, except with Michael Vick, and when we put names to deeds.
The Bible indeed says that murderers, liars, adulterers, idolaters, the fearful, the unbelieving, and all that will burn in the lake of fire, no doubt about that.
But what makes you so sure that Michael Vick, particularly, will burn in hell ? What do you know about him, really, except that he's into dogfighting and may have participated in the slaughter of dogs that wouldn't have lived anyway, either qualitatively or physically.
How do you know that Michael Vick's name is not in the Book of Life, and was written there by the Owner of this Book before the foundation of the world, and that the Lord has not set a time when He shall bring Michael Vick to his knees as He did Paul ?
No.
You don't know that, and neither do I, or anybody on this board.
It makes the hair on the back of my head stand on ends when I read anyone pronouncing a particular person as doomed to hell, or designating himself or anybody else as a creature bound to heaven if the basis is his/her repentance and confession of faith. -
It is interesting that the Word declares that all things were created for His pleasure (Rev. 4:11) and hell is a place God prepared for the devil and his angels (Matt. 25:41).
Does God take pleasure in torturing people who make hell their choice?
No!
The Word says God is not willing that any should perish (2 Peter 3:9). Why would He take pleasure in those who reject Him? -
Anyone want to tackle why a loving God would give unending punishment that seems to accomplish nothing? From our human perspective, punishment is given to accomplish a change in attitude and behavior in the one who must endure it.
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Eze 33:11 Say unto them, [As] I live, saith the Lord GOD, I have no pleasure in the death of the wicked; but that the wicked turn from his way and live: turn ye, turn ye from your evil ways; for why will ye die, O house of Israel?
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If I say: MK, don't jump off a 100 story building because you'll die!! And you decide to jump off the building and you die, did I punish you or did you just reap the consequence?
Just a thought. :)
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