Why is the Christian Reformed Church in Decline?

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  1. delizzle Active Member

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    The doctrine of Limited Atonement.

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    Not so. The gospel also condemns the reprobate. It's to be proclaimed to ALL people.

    I've alswered this one about 1,000 times, but I will again: God uses means. He uses the proclaimation of the gospel to call His elect. See the Great Commission and Romans 10:14 "How then will they call on him in whom they have not believed? And how are they to believe in him of whom they have never heard? And how are they to hear without someone preaching?"

    See above.

    Yes. What an honor. God uses men in this process. Arminians ceratianly belive that, as well. He is not "dependant", though. He can use donkeys and rocks, if He so chooses.
     
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    Stay safe.
     
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    Completely untrue.
     
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    I can't account for every reformed church. My husband and I attend Apologia Church. It's growing like wildfire. Phoenix Reformed Baptist Church is not too far away.

    Matt Chandler from the Village church Texas is huge. Same for St. Andrews Church in FL. Grace Community church in California (John MacArthur's church) is still growing.

    Here is my Pastor. I have been with him to preach the gospel at abortion clinics.

     
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    I think that there is some confusion of terms in this thread. There is a denomination which has the word "Reformed" in its title that has some very liberal congregations. The "Reformed Church in America" is quite a mixed bag.
     
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    Why are we now putting limitations on God? Is God now dependant on humanity to save His elect?

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    I got a few minutes of cell service to post some replies.

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    True, as reformed baptists and conservation Reformed seem to still be growing.
     
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    This is what God has prescribed. Take it up with Him.
     
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    One should never confuse God's using him with God's needing him.
     
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    Website of the Christian Reformed Church in North America
     
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    Fair enough.

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