I would venture to say there is as much truth there as in Calvinism.
Why is the Christian Reformed Church in Decline?
Discussion in 'Calvinism & Arminianism Debate' started by delizzle, Jan 15, 2018.
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Mankind is fallen.
Mankind is unworthy to save himself.
Christ died to redeem His sheep.
God's Grace is sufficient.
God's sheep are protected and preserved into the say of judgment.
None of that is true?
If I had to choose between your denial of the above and the Charismatic/Pentecostal nonsense I would choose the latter. :( -
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Wesley Briggman Well-Known MemberSite Supporter
Antisemitism :
A Response To Questions and Objections of a Certain Jew By John Calvin
"Their [the Jews] rotten and unbending stiffneckedness deserves that they be oppressed unendingly and without measure or end and that they die in their misery without the pity of anyone."
Excerpts from "Vom Schem Hamphoras und vom Geschlecht Christi," By Martin Luther and an excerpt from "Ad Quaelstiones et Objecta Juaei Cuiusdam Responsio," by John Calvin; The Jew in Christian Theology, Gerhard Falk, McFarland and Company, Inc., Jefferson, NC and London, 1931
As a Christian, I see no advantage to identifying with the teachings of any "reformer" regarding the fundamentals of my faith. While Calvin's theology might be Biblical, his antisemitism is not.
Gen 12:3 KJV - And I will bless them that bless thee, and curse him that curseth thee: and in thee shall all families of the earth be blessed. -
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I stopped posting in this thread because it started getting silly but I cannot let your post go without a response.
First, all of us need to derive our theology from our conviction on what scripture teaches. Once we place our eyes on men we have made a compromise that will always lead to disappointment. Certainly, we should obey Paul's words in 1 Corinthians 11:1 when he wrote, "Be imitators of me, just as I also am of Christ." The problem is that we still have abiding sin and fail to follow Christ as we ought. For that reason, we must follow the example of the Bereans and check the scriptures diligently.
The only advantage we have in following any teaching is whether that teaching is biblical. You said so yourself when you wrote, "While Calvin's theology might be Biblical, his antisemitism is not." If a teaching is Biblical, then it is Biblical. While I share Calvin's conviction on predestination and election, I do not share all his personal views nor his views on ecclesiology and baptism. For that matter, I am more in disagreement with Luther than Calvin. What will successive generations say about you and me? Will they see the rightness of our beliefs or will those beliefs be obscured by the reputation of our character? Hard question, is it not?
I am Reformed in most of my theology, not because of men but because I believe my theology is Biblical. If some of the early proponents of Reformed theology were wrong in their words and actions, it does not alter Biblical truth. It might make them of suspect character or even hypocrites, but I still have an obligation to believe the truth apart from the man.
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Iconoclast Well-Known MemberSite Supporter
The teachings belong to Jesus and the Apostles.
Reformers and Puritans have also read the things that we read in our bibles.Their personal issues and attitudes have past on with them.
to their own master they stand or fall and have already been judged as In Christ or In Adam. Whatever their failings , that does not change the scriptural truth. -
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Iconoclast Well-Known MemberSite Supporter
Reynolds,
I will start it for you;
1] how he was involved with Servetus
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again...could you offer 5 or ten errors? so we know what you mean...
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thatbrian said: ↑Calvinists proclaim the gospel promiscuously to ALL men, to the ends of the Earth.Click to expand...
Btw...i am going to be unavailable for responses for the next couple weeks because I will be in a field exercise in the desert.
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