Why no commitment?

So did the popes. Do you believe their history vindicates them?

 

Yes, I do.

 

I do not believe you.

 

No, and that is one of the evidences against the CT, look at the fruit it bore. The Catholic scriptures follow the Alexandrian line.

 

Ok, NIV and NASB disagree each other 2,000+ times.

 

Agree with that.

 

In meaning or word choice?

and the kjv bore the JW's and the mormons...;)

 

The JWs formed in 1870 before the publication of the MVs. They had no other choice. However, they quickly wrote their own version based on the Critical Text.

The Mormons carry around the KJB for show only, primarily to fool people into thinking they are Christians. They have the Book of Mormon as their primary book and consider it more "correct" than the KJB. They also have other sacred texts called the Doctrines and Covenants, and the Pearl of Great Price. Hey, they like multiple versions too! :laugh:

It's a joke to point out false churches like this, what is the most corrupt church ever? The RCC which uses scriptures based on the CT.

 

You missed my point. Just because somebody uses something doesn't make it bad. The JW's used the KJV and the mormons still use the KJV today, but that doesn't make the KJV bad. If the RCC used the TR for their translation, would that have made it bad? Of course not, and neither did it make the CT bad.

 

I find it sad some have never read my signature/trailer:

 

I have even offered to take about five presuppositions of truth (the five statements of Fundamentalism would work nice) and Prove Logically (mathametical branch called 'logic') my trailer. No one wants to take a stand on what the basic set of Axioms are for Christianity?

 

Anyway, the main hang up is I can hold the NIV in one hand and the Geneva Bible in the other hand and claim: In my hand I have the original True statements of God preserved for the generation in which it was translated: without Flaw nor Error caused by God.

Most one bookists must think if God and have one and only one perfect Son; then God can only have one perfect Bible, and God can only save one person :godisgood: ME. Sorry rest of you.

 

The answer to the OP is quite simple.

No one (or very few) outside of the KJVO group has enough confidence in their own human reasoning to elevate it to a par with scripture and hence are not willing to make it a point of contention in the body of Christ.

I, for one, am not willing to put as much faith in my opinion as I am in the word of God.

While I believe that the scriptures are best represented by the traditional text body and believe that all translations should be translated as literally as possible from that body of texts I am not willing to make that view a matter of contention in the body of Christ because it is not backed by His word in any translation. It is simply my opinion after my own prayerful study of the matter.

 

I can't believe this train wreck of a discussion is still going on.

As usual Winman wants everyone to pick "the ONE" and is miffed because we non-KJVO refuse to make a specific translation an idol. I guess the realization that God does not have to abide by man's idea that He can only have ONE translation is just too much for Winman, stilllearning, and all the other KJVOs.

I am so thankful that God is bigger than the box the KJVOists have tried to put Him in. He alone is perfect and not some vain attempt made by fallible men. God preserves His word IN SPITE of mankind. We may not understand the reasoning behind Him allowing the various manuscripts and fragments, but it is not up to us to understand His purposes.

Our job is to spread the gospel message... no matter which translation we use. All of them have the same doctrines and teachings in them but in different words. We don't know exactly which manuscripts or which fragment is perfect... but God uses the whole to further His kingdom. It's too bad some would rather shout and argue that THEIR idol... uh, translation... is PERFECT and all others are corrupt, when there is an entire world full of people rushing headlong into hell/Gehenna/Hades without Christ.

 

Still just a drop in the bucket. And they are, for better or worse, the butt of many an evangelical joke.

 

I don't see the relevance of this.