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Why so much Angst About Limited atonement?
Discussion in 'Calvinism & Arminianism Debate' started by Yeshua1, Apr 18, 2015.
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The logical relationship between vv. 3-4 and vv. 5-7 is crucial. Verses 5-7 summon the readers to a life of virtue, but vv. 3-4 remind us that a life of godliness is rooted in and dependent upon God's grace. Believers should live in a way that pleases God because Christ has given them everything they need for life and godliness. The indicative of God's gift precedes and undergirds the imperative that calls for human exertion. Peter did not lapse,therefore, into works righteousness here since he grounded his exhortations in God's merciful gifts." [Schreiner, 296-97]Click to expand...
I googled Schreiner. I have no idea who he is? Maybe he is the owner of a circus. :laugh:
So much for the credibility of your source.Click to expand...
the owner of a circus????, lets see who is the real clown-
Thomas R. Schreiner is the James Buchanan Harrison Professor of New Testament Interpretation, professor of Biblical Theology, and associate dean of the School of Theology at The Southern Baptist Theological Seminary.
He serves as one of the general editors for the new Biblical Theology for Christian Proclamation commentary series and author of the inaugural volume: Commentary on Hebrews , which will be available on February 1. - See more at: http://www.bhacademicblog.com/inter...-christian-proclamation/#sthash.waKw3sC9.dpuf
This is why no one has any respect for you...you trash actual bible teachers and insert your vain thoughts as if you actually knew something:laugh:
Even so, he says: "The indicative of God's gift precedes and undergirds the imperative that calls for human exertion."
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Iconoclast said: ↑DHK"
Of course you have no idea who he is , because he is a real biblical theologian unlike you and your clown posts...:laugh:
the owner of a circus????, lets see who is the real clown-
Thomas R. Schreiner is the James Buchanan Harrison Professor of New Testament Interpretation, professor of Biblical Theology, and associate dean of the School of Theology at The Southern Baptist Theological Seminary.
He serves as one of the general editors for the new Biblical Theology for Christian Proclamation commentary series and author of the inaugural volume: Commentary on Hebrews , which will be available on February 1. - See more at: http://www.bhacademicblog.com/inter...-christian-proclamation/#sthash.waKw3sC9.dpuf
This is why no one has any respect for you...you trash actual bible teachers and insert your vain thoughts as if you actually knew something:laugh:Click to expand...
So all of these men have it wrong, only you have it correct:laugh: yeah right!Click to expand...
And who are "all these men" that you are referring to?
I quoted the Scripture before you, and clearly gave the sense of it.
If this is what you are basing your salvation on--the works of a Christian, then it is works salvation. It doesn't matter what other people say.
Admit it. Peter is not writing about salvation, you know that. He is writing to believers as you already stated. These are qualities that Christians should show in their lives. They are also things that believers should "do." Thus the "doing" is what you are basing your salvation on.
The question I originally asked you is: "How do you know you are one of the elect?"
I had a follow-up question: "How do you know you have eternal life?"
In both you referred to this passage of Scripture. But this is not dealing with salvation it is speaking of the Christian walk, the "doing," the every day aspect of the believer's walk with God. If that is how you know you are saved, or "one of the elect," then your salvation is based on works, isn't it? -
DHK said: ↑In both you referred to this passage of Scripture. But this is not dealing with salvation it is speaking of the Christian walk, the "doing," the every day aspect of the believer's walk with God. If that is how you know you are saved, or "one of the elect," then your salvation is based on works, isn't it?Click to expand...
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Squire Robertsson said: ↑Sometime after 1700 (5pm) Pacific time, I will close this thread.Click to expand... -
Brother Squire,
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DHK stated that he googled Thomas Schreiner's name and yet claims he still doesn't know who the man is! Among other noteworthy things he authored what many feel is the second best commentary on Romans --first place goes to Doug Moo.
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Ratskis, :tonofbricks:
Reformed said: ↑Brother Squire,
It is still open.Click to expand...
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