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Would this be considered co-ed dorms?

JMSR

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Having been an 18 yr old male, theres no way, none, nada, that I would EVER let my daughter live in a co-ed suite. I know most kids that age are going to do what they want but parents don't have to go along with it. Poor choice on the universities part.
 

annsni

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That's way more than "co-ed" dorms. I know some co-ed dorms have floors that are gender-specific and others that are just rooms that are gender specific. I personally would prefer atleast floors that are gender specific but to think that my child could be in a suite with a guy? Nope - not liking that.
 

Johnv

New Member
Those aren't co-ed dorms, those are fornication dorms. Co-ed dorms segregate roommates by gender.
 

rbell

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A comment from the site was pretty good:

Not so smart. Look. I'm a college sophomore and I believe in student rights, but I also believe in responsibility, so I just have one question: Has the leadership at Syracuse ever taken a sex-ed class in their lives? In the words of Dr. William Cosby, "Come on, people!"

It's true that sexual activity goes on away from campus and has been happening on-campus for as long as there's been co-ed education. However, it's never been virtually INVITED on campus until now. Put a guy and a girl together in the same bedroom and something unexplainable happens. It's been the whole idea behind having separate dorms for males and females for generations.

Still don't believe this is a bad idea? Here's just a partial list of what Syracuse (and the legions of colleges that are sure to follow suit)can expect from this idiocy:

1. Increased incidents of SEXUAL HARASSMENT and SEXUAL ASSAULT
2. more LAWSUITS against colleges for sexual harassment and sexual assault
3. large increase of unintended PREGNANCY
4. large increase in ABORTION RATES among students
5. higher occurrences in STDs, including HIV
6. higher DROP-OUT RATES for students due to pregnancy, childcare issues, or disease
So congratulations, Syracuse. I'm sure there are kids who will choose your school just because they know they can shack up in a dorm room with the school's blessings. I hope you all are prepared for the consequences.
 

padredurand

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At least it will take their minds off the deplorable football program.

G. K Chesterton once said, "We have educated ourselves into imbecility." The "Cuse has stepped up to be the poster child, so to speak.
 

Marcia

Active Member
This is what happens when 18 year olds are legally adults. I don't see how anyone can complain. I find it deplorable, but they are adults. It seems parents and others don't mind them being adults for some things but then they are aghast when things go this way. This is just the natural result of that.

When the legal age was 21, universities could not even think of doing anything like this. Some even had curfews.

This and other things are why I've been against declaring 18 the legal age of adulthood.

1. Increased incidents of SEXUAL HARASSMENT and SEXUAL ASSAULT
2. more LAWSUITS against colleges for sexual harassment and sexual assault
3. large increase of unintended PREGNANCY
4. large increase in ABORTION RATES among students
5. higher occurrences in STDs, including HIV
Like the military? And this is how it's going to be on submarines now that they are talking about letting women stay on them for months at a time with men.
 
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padredurand

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Like the military? And this is how it's going to be on submarines now that they are talking about letting women stay on them for months at a time with men.

I've lived in college dorms and I have served in the military. There is a world of difference between the two. The most significant that comes to mind is discipline. The military operates under the Uniform Code of Military Justice (UCMJ). There are dire consequences for inappropriate behavior including fraternization. The Chain of Command is responsible for the behavior of the crew and takes action when the UCMJ is violated. A violator of the UCMJ breaks the law.

Not all contact or association between officers and enlisted persons is an offense. Whether the contact or association in question is an offense depends on the surrounding circumstances. Factors to be considered include whether the conduct has compromised the chain of command, resulted in the appearance of partiality, or otherwise undermined good order, discipline, authority, or morale. Source

What does a college have for a system of checks and balances? An RA that is about the same age as the students? A violation of a college's policy is merely breaking a rule and not any law. The student(s) may be expelled or suspended at best.
 

Marcia

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I've lived in college dorms and I have served in the military. There is a world of difference between the two. The most significant that comes to mind is discipline. The military operates under the Uniform Code of Military Justice (UCMJ). There are dire consequences for inappropriate behavior including fraternization. The Chain of Command is responsible for the behavior of the crew and takes action when the UCMJ is violated. A violator of the UCMJ breaks the law.

Then why have I heard and read that on some Navy ships there is a high pregnancy rate for unmarried women, and that this is a problem in other areas of the military as well? It doesn't seem to me that the military can watch people all the time.

Aside from the military, this is the result (co-ed dorms and rooms) for declaring age 18 a legal age, imo. If it were up to me, co-ed dorms would not exist.
 

Salty

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Aside from the military, this is the result (co-ed dorms and rooms) for declaring age 18 a legal age, imo. If it were up to me, co-ed dorms would not exist.


Actually, 18 is not full legal age. I had a brother get into some legal problems and was awarded a "free" lawyer. about 2 weeks before his 21st birthday. Since he was not yet 21 (full legal age), the lawyer went after my mom for full professional fees! :tear:

This happened about 20 years ago.

But on the other hand, when a student attends college, the parent is not allowed access to the students files, such as grades and ect; unless the student gives written permission. Glen Beck said, he would not write the tuition check, until his daughter signed the release.

Watch out, they might make that illegal as it would be considered blackmail or done under duress.
 
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Marcia

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Actually, 18 is not full legal age. I had a brother get into some legal problems and was awarded a "free" lawyer. about 2 weeks before his 21st birthday. Since he was not yet 21 (full legal age), the lawyer went after my mom for full professional fees! :tear:

This happened about 20 years ago.

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I am not sure if 18 was the legal age 20 years ago, but 18 is either full legal age or it isn't; there is no halfway legal age. And today 18 is legal age. The only way it's not is regarding drinking. But 18 year olds can sign contracts; must appear in court as adults; and can rent apartments, etc. They have full legal rights as adults except for being able to legally purchase and buy alcohol (I think - isn't the age for drinking 21?)

But on the other hand, when a student attends college, the parent is not allowed access to the students files, such as grades and ect; unless the student gives written permission. Glen Beck said, he would not write the tuition check, until his daughter signed the release.

This is because they are legally adults.

Don't get me started on Glenn Beck.
 
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