Would you stay? 4

Sure you can be saved, You are the first example that comes to mind.

I believe you reject Jesus when you state Love God and Love Neighbor is not necessary for Salvation.

But I also believe the ignorance is at fault rather then your intention, You are good person, Loyal to God, I think you are mistaken, just don't know better.

We see in parable of talents and of the wicked servant, God gives a particular measure of faith to everyone, to whom more is given much more is expected.

Acts 17

27that they would seek God, if perhaps they might grope for Him and find Him, though He is not far from each one of us; 28for in Him we live and move and exist, as even some of your own poets have said, ‘For we also are His children.’

Here Paul expresses to PAGANS that they are children of God, He is quoting PAGAN SCRIPTURE.

He tells us in verse before:

"having determined their appointed times and the boundaries of their habitation,"

God has absolute control of the conditions.

If you were born a Eskimo tribe in the middle of nowhere's, You want to convince me that I ought to fault you as a rejector of Jesus.

The guy who is closer to truth is in a hotter seat. Between me and you I got to believe I got it coming more than anyone here.

Maybe you can explain this verse for us, because the way I see it Jesus is very reasonable:

John 15

22“If I had not come and spoken to them, they would not have sin, but now they have no excuse for their sin.


You can barely call me a christian some folks here would insist I am not, I love Jesus.

If I went to preached the word to someone does it qualify at all? Folks here would swear I got it all wrong. Yet you want to qualify folks as rejecting Jesus when they have no grip of your understanding, You can't even get your understanding across to ME even.

A Buddhist went to watch "Grinch from Christmas" He thought the Grinch must be Jesus Christ, because they were taught wise folks looked like monkeys.

So if he rejects the Monkey as Lord and Savior, you going to fault him for that?

Even My view of what you think God is, absolute unforgiving monster, and maybe what I think of God to you is horrible and wrong.

Just because you might reject what I presented as God, doesn't mean you reject God. Ultimately I think we come face to face with Jesus and those matters are settled there.

 

By then it will be too late. You are on baptist board for a reason, and i believe it is providential. You have to be born again, are you?

 

I didn't give you a list. I said these are some of the things Jesus said with regard to salvation. He said other things as well. I would practically have to quote an entire gospel to quote everything Jesus said with regard to salvation. Fortunately, I don't have to as we have 4 Gospels with which we could read. Even at that Jesus said and did many things not mentioned in the Gospels.

 

John 20
31 but these are written that you may believe that Jesus is the Christ, the Son of God, and that believing you may have life in His name.

 

I gave you my answer. It is simple. Now if you want follow up questions answered then ask those. As you may have seen in this thread that I gave an answer regarding the Catholic View of Justification.

 

Exactly, Believe on the Lord Jesus and do what he says. Matt 17:5 " While he was still speaking, a bright cloud covered them, and a voice from the cloud said, “This is my Son, whom I love; with him I am well pleased. Listen to him!” James 1:22 "Do not merely listen to the word, and so deceive yourselves. Do what it says"

 

We are not saved BY Good Works, we are saved FOR Good works--Ephesians 2:10, check it out.

 

Jesus said it, I didn't. As far as the Ethiopian Eunuch it shows us a principle that the Old Testament should be viewed in the light of the person of Jesus Christ and Jesus Teaching as he passed it on to his apostles. It shows us that the oral teaching clarifies the written word. So with this in mind consider what Jesus said in John 6. If we are to view the Old Testament in the light of Jesus Christ let us consider the Passover which is a foreshadowing of Jesus and his sacrifice. In John 1:29 the Baptist said "Behold the Lamb of God who takes away the sins of the world" a direct reference to the Passover lamb which the Jews would not have missed. What were the Jews instructed to do at the Passover? Exodus 12:3 "They are to take a lamb for themselves, one for each household" Exodus 12:6 "you are to take care of them when all the members of the community are to slaughter them" Exodus 12:11 " This is how you are to eat it: with your cloak tucked into your belt, your sandals on your feet and your staff in your hand. Eat it in haste; it is the Lord’s Passover." We see that in Revelation that Jesus is envisioned as a lamb we can easily connect the dots as John the Baptist did. Jesus is the Lamb of God. Since Passover is a type and a foreshadowing we must as ourselves what did the Jews do with the sacrificed lamb? Had it live with them, killed it, and then ate it in order that the angel of death would Passover them. They did this in the manner of getting ready to travel to the promised land. As when we must do when we partake in Jesus teaching in John 6.

 

The problem between your understanding of salvation and mine is that you need lists. I believe that once God has given you faith to believe in the Lord Jesus Christ your life is lived in Christ. In other words everything you do engages salvation. That is why I'm having a problem with lists. Do what Jesus says what he taught. All of it is for salvation John 15:5-6 Jesus said "I am the vine; you are the branches. If you remain in me and I in you, you will bear much fruit; apart from me you can do nothing. 6 If you do not remain in me, you are like a branch that is thrown away and withers; such branches are picked up, thrown into the fire and burned." Salvation isn't just getting to heaven it is also the Journey there. Part of that Journey includes sanctification. Part of that Journey is aligning your will to his. It is all of it. Though I don't agree with everything John Bunyan says in his Pilgrims Progress he does clearly show in allegory that the Christian's Path to Heaven and Salvation is a journey.

 

You are right we are not saved by good works but neither are we saved by faith alone James 2:20-24 check it out, which btw is the only place in the bible where the words "faith alone" are mentioned in that way. "20 do you want evidence that faith without deeds is useless 21 Was not our father Abraham considered righteous for what he did when he offered his son Isaac on the altar? 22 You see that his faith and his actions were working together,and his faith was made complete by what he did. 23 And the scripture was fulfilled that says, “Abraham believed God, and it was credited to him as righteousness,” and he was called God’s friend. 24 You see that a person is considered righteous by what they do and not by faith alone."

 

So explain in your own words how this section of Scripture should be understood in light of justification and Christ's work on the cross, thanks!