Don't be silly, of course you interpret them. If you didn't, then we would both be on the same page on every bit of the New Testament, but we aren't. The Scriptures just didn't come from nowhere, they were collated by the leaders of the newly emerging Christian Church. Councils and synods were formed, doctrines were established, heresies were fought, things were decided and it was all done by live human beings. The Scriptures were there as a guide, they did nothing by themselves.
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Discussion in 'Other Christian Denominations' started by steaver, Aug 15, 2018.
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The "teachers" and "preachers" you talk about are just interpreters of the Holy Word, nothing more, nothing less. No matter how you describe them they are interpreters, imparting to you the "truth" of what they have come up with as they have "studied" the Scriptures. There is no shame in believing this, every preacher from every Christian sect does this, even yours - that is Christendom's reality. -
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24You see that a man is justified by works and not by faith alone.
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Jas 2:20
But wilt thou know, O vain man, that faith without works is dead?
Jas 2:21
Was not Abraham our father justified by works, when he had offered Isaac his son upon the altar?
Jas 2:22
Seest thou how faith wrought with his works, and by works was faith made perfect?
Jas 2:23
And the scripture was fulfilled which saith, Abraham believed God, and it was imputed unto him for righteousness: and he was called the Friend of God.
Jas 2:24
Ye see then how that by works a man is justified, and not by faith only.
•(James 2:14-26).
•Verse 22 - “Faith” made “perfect”. “perfect” – “teleioo” – “fulfill”.
•Verse 23 - “the scripture was fulfilled” - what scripture was fulfilled? – “which saith, Abraham believed God, and it was imputed unto him for righteousness:”
•So if we say we “believe in the LORD” is our “said faith” justified and fulfilled by how we respond to God’s direction for how we should live our lives as professing believers?
•So when the scripture said “Abraham believed God” (Genesis 15) – How was it fulfilled? How do we know Abraham believed God? – when Abraham obeyed God by doing what God asked him to do.
It's all right there. No need for "help" from any outside source apart from the Scripture itself. And we could go to the Apostle Paul as well with additional conformation that a soul is justified by "Faith alone" and the soul's "Confession" is made perfect, fulfilled, justified by the soul's "Works". However, the ONLY works that will justify "said faith" is if that faith is in the Son of God and the confession is that Jesus Christ is Lord.
And Jame's concludes, "Ye see then how that by works a man is justified, and not by faith only." Why yes I do James, because I took the time to read your full explanation and i also know what your fellow Apostle Paul had to say about justification through works. Thank you James for explaining what you were talking about because if you hadn't explained it by using Abraham as an example men would want to twist what you said into some sort of justification by works apart from any faith in Jesus Christ the Son of God. -
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James 2
20But are you willing to recognize, you foolish fellow, that faith without works is useless?
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Eph 2:8
For by grace are ye saved through faith; and that not of yourselves: it is the gift of God:
Eph 2:9
Not of works, lest any man should boast.
Eph 2:10
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Its a Yes or No Question.
Lets hear it:
James 2
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for all who are sickened and angry about what 'priests' have done. Thank you, Fr. Lankeit!
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I would never be a part of a church that teaches such heresies as the RCC to begin with, so there is that.
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