If a pastor teaches tithing then he should take the lead otherwise he is a hypocrite. And contrary to the accountant on another thread he should tithe his gross income including his housing allowance.
Of course I don't believe that the tithe is required of Christians so I don't believe in that practice.
By the way the associate should probably resign.
Would you stick around?
Discussion in 'General Baptist Discussions' started by Jedi Knight, Apr 20, 2009.
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How do you know if he or any other member is tithing?
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JohnDeereFan Well-Known MemberSite Supporter
Our pastor recieves a small allowance, mostly just to reimburse his expenses and I can remember when it actually cost him money to stay as pastor of that church.
Don't get me wrong, we should pay our pastors and pay them well, but $90,000??? That's...a lot. -
preachinjesus Well-Known MemberSite Supporter
lol...I know plenty of pastors (associate and senior) who make that amount and then some.
It is a pretty relative number. Often cost of living in certain locations is significantly higher than others. -
For them to 'First' come to me and proceed to talk negitively or (God forbid) tear down that other person - without first having gone to them, then they are not looking for your advice but are looking for company in what they are doing.
As I stated, it was only advice. Do with it what you will just understand I wasn't trying to be offensive only speaking what I believe scripture tells us to do. If both these men are godly men and are loving as well as prayerful, then if I'm wrong the worst that happens is that there is now an issue that is both known and potentally able to be resolved with prayer and love one way or another without wounds and hurt. The best thing that can happen is that it is resolved right then and there :) -
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Jedi Knight Well-Known MemberSite Supporter
"yet they pay their pastor 1,100 a month or $13,200 a year." Now this is ridiculous! "sad to say I personally know of a church where...." Ok, no gossip! lol
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Your friend was upset at his pastor and told you not his pastor with whom he is upset.
My statement is about the situation of church who has enough to build building but pays their pastor next nothing - and yes, it is a sad thing. My statement concerns the fact that many of us pastors don't even get 20,000 much less 90,000.
It appears that your issue with me isn't my statement about what he should do and what he did, but really concerns what gossip is and is not. -
Jedi Knight Well-Known MemberSite Supporter
"What I stated isn't gossip" Sorry Bro,I was teasing you.:tongue3:
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By the way, that same church is going to vote this Sunday about calling me to be their potential new pastor :) -
Jedi Knight Well-Known MemberSite Supporter
"By the way, that same church is going to vote this Sunday about calling me to be their potential new pastor" I will pray for you on this!:smilewinkgrin:
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I'll be praying too. May God give you wisdom and favor to know if this is the church where you should be ministering. -
JohnDeereFan Well-Known MemberSite Supporter
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corndogggy Active MemberSite Supporter
If a pastor has a second job he should probably tithe based on that amount but tithing based on his church income is kind of weird, as he's just paying himself.
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If there is some patently unbiblical stuff going on, there are avenues within the church to address that.
But your friend is complaining to someone who cannot help him.
Also, another concern: you've listed two totally different complaints from him...
Whenever I see someone complaining about multiple, unrelated issues, I tend to wonder if it will be possible for them to be satisfied in their current situation. Sounds like your friend should do some soul-searching.
I say that as one who has been on his side of the fence before...I've been "the complainer" in a past position. I ended up having to make some changes, and it made me much better equipped to handle things. The Lord never did work on the person I was complaining about (at least that was my perception), but He worked on me...and that made a big difference. -
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As a pastor, I would never lead my people to do anything I am not willing to do myself or am already doing. I teach tithing... ergo I tithe.
As to the question of staying or going, the amount a pastor earns is largely unimportant so long as the man is faithful to the calling the Lord and the Church have issued. The fact that tithing is taught but not practiced by the pastor and that the information is public may cause me to knock on his door. If other priorities are lacking in the ministry as well, the philosophy of ministry I hold may not jive with his... I am probably going to be praying for the Lord to open the door for me to quietly step away.
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